☛ TS Measure T protects our rights A little Op-Ed in support of Measure T in the TS today. written by Jon Zaglin, who we are told in his little bio, resides in Eureka.
Jon Zaglin resides in Eureka? Not - Jon Zaglin of the Healthy Humboldt Coalition? Not Jon Zaiglin, the Local Projects Director for DUHC.org (Democracy Unlimited) the nutcases who brought us Measure T?
Fess up, dude.
Maybe it was a typo? Maybe it was the T/S fault? Maybe John is just not that bright?
ReplyDeleteIs working for Democraxcy Unlimited a full time job? with benefits?
Oh, it's no typo, the guy provides his bio, they don't have to make one up for him, I'm sure. Can't blame this on them.
ReplyDeleteOn the plus side - looks like the T-bots don't have much real support, but at least they didn't con some regular citizen to signing on of their PR pieces. They had to do it themselves, albeit not quite honestly.
good thing you're keeping on top of them .....
ReplyDeleteWow! What a great OP-Ed. Zaglin really nails it. Rose, as usual, shows her anti-democracy slip, while standing on her head, to draw attention away from reasoned discourse.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't nail sqwat. Measure "T" is going by the way side. Face it !
ReplyDeleteHurray for the corporations!
ReplyDeleteMeasure T will go down in flames and I will add it to Gallegos' list of accomplishments and gifts to the community of Humboldt.
ReplyDeleteLocal government bought and paid for by non-local deep pockets! Yea for Walmart! Yea for cheap underwear! Yea for no representation! Yea for Rose!
ReplyDeleteYay for stacking the deck in your favor. Yay for hogtying your targets, Yay for creating an uneven playing field. Yay for trying to protect little boy Paul, and thereby protect your precious little tool - didn't help ya in the end, did it. yay for tying up the "corporations" but letting the unfettered orgs maraud freely...
ReplyDeleteYou screech about fascism - you are fascism, look in the mirror, fool.
I like being called a nutcase!!Corporate personhood is a very unfortunate fallacy,the anti-thesis to the intentions of the Constitution,and I don't even consider myself to be any sort of Constitutionalist.Will the courts strike it down?Most likely,as courts quite regularly rule against individuals and in favor of non-entities in situations like this.It's helped to advance the power of corporations and further advanced us into a Fascist State where we our government works for corporate interest,not individual interest.
ReplyDeleteOh, God, mresquan. Corporations ARE people, they are people in business, small businesses and large.
ReplyDeleteBut anyway - Measure T doesn't deal with CORPORATIONS - it only discriminates against "NON-LOCAL" corporations. So small businesses who are incorporated can donate unless someone lives elsewhere, maybe their kid is in college somewhere else.
It's stupid, it is discriminatory, and for all your high ideals it is one of the most craven things to come along - it is a scam pulled over your head by snake oil salesman of the highest order. All in order to protect the activist tool, the DA who would file their lawsuits, and save them from the fate of Bob Martel. (DId he ever pay his judgment?)
And they didn't even have to hypnotize you to do it, You follow the pied piper wherever he leads and think nothing of it. Because you bought the rhetoric hook line and sinker.
THey won anyway - Palco is dead. But they aren't done, mresquan. Who is next? Will you stand for it? Or will you finally see?
Rose,the very people leading this brigae against the T supporters can indeed donate to campaigns as individuals.Corporations are made up of people,sure,and a business incorporating is a fine idea and I recommend it, but it doesn't mean that they should have undue influence due to their corporate status.
ReplyDeleteAnd I also certainly support a cap as well,such as some of the No on T crowd proposed.
Maxxam did Palco in. Rose would invite that kind of outside influence back. This is what she calls an even playing field - says it while standing on her head. How can mere snake oil and the pied piper withstand that kind of spectacle? Corporations are people? Corporations are us? Snake oil! Snake oil that is being pedaled by a cart wheeling pied piper by the name of Rose.
ReplyDeleteOk - so your views are fairly represented. Even you must admit that Palco, as an entity, was somewhat justified in finally striking back, surely, now, knowing what you know, that the suit was indeed without any legal merit whatsoever, you must at least admit that, after years of harassment, it is understandable.
ReplyDeleteBut take it a step further. Tell me what a "corporation" has done that has hurt you. Specifically. And further, how has a "corporation" hurt this community?
Do you eat oysters from the bay? Do you know any unemployed forest industry workers? Are you paying too much for fuel? Have your stock investments lost value. Your home? Are prices in general rising faster than your income? Do you really want your local government influenced by outside interests? Wouldn't it be better if some form of measure-T was passed at the Federal level. How the hell did you get "We the people" confused with "Corporations are us"?
ReplyDeleteBreaks over. Back on your head.
You're an idiot.
ReplyDeleteIt's to the point I'd rather have outside influences than the local whackjobs.
ReplyDeleteRose it's no idiot ,it's just David Cobb spouting off again.Secound thought,yes it is an idiot.
ReplyDeleteFrankly, I'd expect David Cobb to be more articulate than that. So, I kinda doubt it's him. Could be, I guess.
ReplyDeleteIt's to the point I'd rather have outside influences than the local whackjobs.
ReplyDeleteGood point!
Thinking of running for office? Your platform would be? How about - Everything is for sale - show me the money! So many politicians prostitute themselves for money and power. How easy it must be when they think of their constituents as the local whackjobs. If you think T is unfair, then, write an amendment. Get it passed into law.
ReplyDeleteCorporate funded Pacific Legal Foundation seeks to subvert the majority vote that made Measure-T law. By not seeking to pass an amendment to T. they are using their money and the court to make an end run around the democratic process. That you are willing to support this attempted theft by an outside influence with deep pockets while painting the Humboldt County voters as whackjobs is symptomatic of Democracy under siege. Traitorous behavior and unpatriotic, Rose.
ReplyDelete:) Now that could be Cobb. We'll see, I guess, if this activist POS Measure passes muster.
ReplyDeleteLike I said I relay really really hop Gallegos has to end up defending it for you.
Yep,damn all who voted this in.Stupid sheep,who shouldn't be allowed to vote.At least the anti-same sex marriage bigots bring initiatives to voters for the opportunity to have their wishes granted.Want Meaure T done away with,let's vote on it,same way it came into law.
ReplyDeleteBut if you must,let the courts decide,and don't complain about Baykeepers or whatever using the courts to suit them.
How about the CCPOA ( Prison guards union) using their condsiderable financial clout to start a recall campaign against Governor Schwartzenegger because he's resisted them taking over the Prison budgets and the running of prisons from the Administration. How does that compare with PL's trying to get Gallegus recalled? Looks like the principle is very much the same. Any comments on that?
ReplyDeleteI guess one difference is that the local recall was started by local people, not PL, best of my knowledge, and had a little bit more to do with Paul himself than just the suit - but, other than that, I don't know much about either of the two new recalls. I guess i would say the same thing I said about ours - recalls rarely succeed, and they cost the community alot - BUT I fully support the people's right to say "Hey, we made a huge, giant mistake here, and we have to fix it."
ReplyDeleteGallegos deserved to be recalled. I don't think Schwarzenegger does, I don';t know about Lintott.
The prison guards union has considerable financial clout? Compared to the California? Call the California National Guard!
ReplyDeletemresquan...are you sure you wish to reduce law making to a popular vote? You do have one thing right...people by in large are sheep. Lets see...I am sure there are places, if left to the vote of the people would...reinstate slavery...repeal a woman's right to vote...etc. Unconstitutional you say...just like Measure T.
ReplyDeleteWhere would those places exist other than your cynical mind, 2:06? How do you know you know what you think you know? You probably don't know. Do you know you have a problem. Don't think about it. Wouldn't want your old opinion gun to hang fire. Hang in there. Keep your powder dry. Fire away at everything that moves. You might bag something. Have you ever been lucky?
ReplyDeleteUpon reflection - we elected Schwarzenegger to turn things around - and that meant reduce the state's spending.
ReplyDeleteHe tried. But he was blocked at every turn, and now we are back in the same, or worse, mess. YOu can thank the state legislature.
Part of the problem is entitlements - that is, for example, prison guards that will retire at something like 90% of their income... if I remember some of the discussions, it means some retirees will be making $90,000 a year without working. I'd have to go back and look it up, it isn't something
THAT is going to bankrupt the state. Many people, and many 'liberals' like to talk about our Federal deficit and what we are leaving our kids, yet they ignore this. In fact they fight Schwarzenegger, some because he is simply, not a Dem.
They have condemned this state to a terrible fate - one result will be that all big producers will leave - an Atlas Shrugged kind of situation. Businesses are already leaving because of the restrictive business climate and the high taxes. Retirees will leave, taking their pensions with them, as they can no longer afford to live here.
So, I guess I find it ironic that it is the prison guards doing this.
And much as I am very disappointed in Schwarzenegger, he doesn't deserve this. Now if you want to recall every single member of the state legislature, I'd be with ya at this point.
Retirees with a pension paying $90 thousand a year? Prison guards? California's economy is large by world standards. States offer huge concessions to attract business to set up shop. California has a larger economy than any other state. And the U.S. government offers tax incentives to businesses to move their operations off shore. This hurts the whole country. Oh, wait, maybe we can privatize our prisons. Then we can off shore them too. Most American workers have no representation.
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