How's the DA going to handle code enforcement?
Looks like one of his DDAs lives off the grid. Wonder if she has all her permits in a row? And if not...
Recently, she ...moved from a comfortable home in East Sacramento to a cabin without electricity or running water near Ferndale in Humboldt County. Their three-room cabin, on 80 acres that they purchased in 2003, perches on a 1,300-foot-high ridge. Through their large windows, they can gaze at the Pacific Ocean, the mouth of the Eel River and Humboldt Bay.
But life often gets in the way of idyllic ocean gazing. Just getting to their cabin is a chore: Driving three miles from Ferndale on a steep, twisting stretch of road known locally as “The Wildcat,” they must turn onto a dirt road and travel a quarter-mile, then hike the last 150 yards to their house by foot along an often-muddy trail. Once they’re home, the work doesn’t stop: They have to generate their own heat and power and supply their own water. How do they do it? They warm the cabin and cook their meals with wood, finding an abundant supply on their land. “Gathering wood is really a lot of work,” says (her husband), 50. “But hey, I’m in better shape now than when I was going to Alhambra Athletic Club.”
Water comes from a spring that (he) dug himself. Around Thanksgiving, an old septic tank on the property failed; they now use what (he) delicately describes as “alternative waste-handling approaches” that include composting. “This simple system works great for us,” he says, “and it feels good not to waste the water used to flush.”
They get hot water from a small gas water heater powered by propane gas. To refill the propane tank, (he) drives to Fortuna, about 20 minutes away. The family also generates its own electricity, using a system of spinning wind turbines and rooftop panels that absorb sunlight and convert it to electricity that then is stored in batteries.
The McKimmy family lives “off the grid,” going without connections to public utilities such as electricity, water and sewage. Source 4/06
Oh my GOD! Sprawl!
YeeHaw.
ReplyDeleteIsn't that sweet. Is this gal McKimmy one of PVG's new DDA's ? If so maybe she can prosecute environmental crimes like dope growers spilling diesel and oil ?
ReplyDeleteNaw, Paul v. Gallegos would not want to do that as it would piss off most of the dope growers. And like it or not the dope growers are his biggest supporters (financially and vocally).
This code enforcement thing/issue is just another example of Gallegos (and the B.O.P.) catering to the MARIJUANA GROWERS. PVG doesn't care if they are growing marijuana, selling it all over, not paying taxes, and basically being an open sore on society's backside. PVG doesn't care because they got him elelcted, and they keep him elected. They make money and he stays in power.
You demonstrate that you don't have the ability to even understand what your opposition is talking about. You twist and spin every event to the point of it being unrecognizable and forbids any reasonable discussion. In a word, you are INSANE.
ReplyDeleteWhat did you just say ? Who's insane? Kind of like the saying that a thief thinks all other men are thieves.
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting to hear what Gallegos has done WELL?
With regards to McKimmy, I fully support her right to live off the grid and on the land. I think it is a great thing. A real and authentic life, EXACTLY what HumCPR is advocating for, EXACTLY what the people who just testified at the Code Enforcement hearing, the CLMP folks are talking about.
ReplyDeleteChoosing to live off the grid is a valid choice.
She should bring a very interesting perspective to any prosecutions of people like the Yee Haw Ranch guy.
She may be the clearest proof that they should not be prosecuted at all.
That's an interesting double edged sword.
But what she also demonstrates is just how WRONG Mark Lovleace's stance is, his forced infill Plan A.
I just find it all very interesting.
Hooray for the McKimmies. I don't know what the zoning is for their area. It depends on availability of services. If it's an "owner-builder" area they can build anything they wish. Living off grid is very satisfying. We did it for 10 years and would still be doing it in Weitchpec if the DA had prosecuted the felon (grower) who kept shooting at us.
ReplyDeleteYou don't understand Rose. It isn't about people living off the grid. It is about when lots of people move to rural areas and then, by their numbers, demand and get the services that the homesteaders decided to live without who then have to pay for them, along with every other taxpayer in Humboldt County.
ReplyDeleteOf course, you don't want to understand and would rather continue with your strawman games, but strawmen don't have any brains so that is the only opponent you have a chance of defeating.
john desidere is no libertarian. while he is in charge of permit enforcement, regulations will be strictly enforced. thats just how it is. i know john, he is not unreasonable, but he wont let some intimidation stop him from doing what he thinks he was hired to do.
ReplyDeleteim libertarian minded, so i dont agree with john about much, but i think that this issue is being blown out of proportion. NO ONE is saying that people shouldnt be allowed to live off the grid.
Rose doesn't care about getting it right. She just tows the HumCPR line for them. The people who buy her line of crap are members who don't care about the facts either.
ReplyDeletetheo, I agree John is not a bad man. He's just doing a bad job,poorly. The problem is that "he's doing what he thinks he was hired to do". What is that? To indirectly help marl lovelace force us all into some eco-groovy yuktopia of infill,walkability and dependence on government. That's the real issue and where true libertarians won't follow you,John or mark. The issue isn't being blown out of porportion theo. It is a true horor waiting to go atomic. Every property owner in this county faces a great peril if the citizens committee can't put the "rights" and humanity back in property rights. We will not live in a lovelace yuktopia.
ReplyDeleteWhat does the DA do well? I'll tell you. DRINK!
ReplyDeletejohn wasnt hired to help mark lovelace. lovelace isnt even in office.
ReplyDeletetalk about paranoia....i own property, im not foreseeing an atomic war here. thats why i am proceeding on my projects and not whining about theoretical constructs regarding property rights. there is only one way to develop property, ONE project at a time. its always a fight. if you owned property and have developed it, you would know that.
I agree. Code Enforcement is a separate issue from the General Plan. And Desadier is in a completely different arena.
ReplyDeleteSome Code Enforcement is necessary. And I can understand why building inspectors/Code Enforcement/Assessors might want armed escorts when going into some rural areas because of the prevalence of dope growers and the possibility of armed dope growers. Not just in SoHum, but mostly there.
It's a tough issue - you can't have innocent people being rousted at gunpoint. And, You want some rules enforced.
Those who are going to try to sort this one out will have a difficult job.
I was very impressed with Bonnie Blackberry and the CLMP - the quality of their words and points and presentations. The respect and consideration they gave. It will be interesting to see if a people friendly, freedom preserving solution can be found.
http://humboldtmirror.wordpress.com/2008/05/01/deepest-condolences-from-carlos-quilez/#comments
ReplyDeleteSave that link and the next time you think about saying everyone should use their real names on blogs, pull it up and read it. YOUR GUYS are unprincipled, vindictive, malicious, PRICKS. Has anyone ever done anything like that to you because of your opinions, Rose? You don't need to worry about your name being out there because you agree with them so they wouldn't target you. The guys on the opposite side don't do shit like that.
Code enforcement and the General plan are not seperate issues. To think that shows either a lack of understanding or deception. The General Plan is quietly changing zone designations,building code standards,septic requirements,gray water,etc,etc,etc. A unit that pays its way from fines and foreclosures it developes is a ticking bomb. theo you may not care about many who are on low or fixed incomes or are just happy in their simple lifestyle but I can tell you when were forced from our meger homes it atomic warfare to us.
ReplyDelete7:47 you are funny. ROTFLMAO! when you say" unprincipled,vindictive,malicious,PRICKS." You are of course talk about the dip-shit Carlos. Right. If you are not then you are an evil orc. LOL!
ReplyDeleteYeah, and I'll bet you wish you had my name and phone number so you could get people to harrass me with late night phone calls. You are despicable.
ReplyDeleteI don't know 7:47. It's one of those things each person decides. I have removed phone numbers from listserve messages by Salzman and Miller with mixed feelings. Because those listserves aren't just sent to 5 or 6 close friends. They are a form of viral email, sent to hundreds of not thousands of people. If they put their number on that kind of message, that is their choice. And is certainly intended to generate a response. AND, those listserves have been used to galvanize attacks on opponents. NO question.
ReplyDeleteAside from that - yes, I have had problems as a result of using my name. But I think it is important for me to do so.
And I have seen others smeared far worse than anything that has been done to Mr. Quilez. By Salzman and by Miller. Any one who stands in the way gets publicly vilified.
Never have heard you, whoever you are, anonymous, say anything about that. Not once.
In the first place, didn't your mother tell you two wrongs don't make a right? Do you have any specific information about Salzman or Miller (or any other progressive) giving out home phone numbers and encouraging people to harrass anyone with late night, auto dialer calls and calling them obscene names which call into question their sexual orientation or just the general complaint of "smears?"
ReplyDeleteYou're OBVIOUSLY new here.
ReplyDeleteNew HERE as in your blog. Lifelong resident of Eureka, multiple generations here.
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't you just post specific allegations?
I guess there are too many examples to think of one. :) Anyway, I am going to bed.
ReplyDeleteIt looks like there aren't any specific examples. Not surprised.
ReplyDeleteOh, there are plenty. When I get time I will pull up the links for you. They're posted. Have been for a long time.
ReplyDeleteLinks? Can't you just give a few examples? I don't want to read your whole blog to find them.
ReplyDeleteEver here of Debbi August? Rob Arkley? They are nice folks who got caught up in the evil of "the other side". Go push your BS to the HCDCC or HWC,EPIC,ETC. I'm sure you'll all have a good time sucking up each others lies. In the mean time take Carlos for what he is. A chump. A nasty chump.
ReplyDelete9:25 no one is interested in calling you. Just answere the question. Why would Carlos copy his letter to this list server? That answere will tell you more about the type of person he is even than his letter did.
ReplyDeleteHe probably copied it to his list server so that those people would also write letters of a similar vein. That's the usual purpose for doing that.
ReplyDeleteWho exactly are you accusing over the Debi August mess? Wasn't it the grand jury who started the investigation on her based on citizen complaints? The same grand jury that was so critical of Gallegos? The same grand jury whose misconduct regarding records (which weren't turned over to the DA) caused the August case to be dropped?
As to Rob Arkley, HA!
You're getting close to the truth now 8:27 if you dare to see it. Based on citizens complaints--- says a lot. That's your other side making false charges to smear someone. The same type of phony charges that will bring a code enforcement officer around if (YOU) step out of line with your prog's on the other side.
ReplyDeleteMel Berti was on whose side? There were lots of conservatives in Fortuna very upset over her work on the Smith subdivision and the obvious conflict of interest. If it weren't for the malfeasance of the very same grand jury whose report on PVG so prominent on this blog, she likely would have been convicted. It's funny that you think only progressives have issues with conflicts of interest. Do you even know what the Debi August case was about or what happened? Somehow I doubt it.
ReplyDeleteA different Grand Jury.
ReplyDelete"theo you may not care about many who are on low or fixed incomes or are just happy in their simple lifestyle but I can tell you when were forced from our meger homes it atomic warfare to us."
ReplyDeletei have immediate family members who live off the grid in southern humboldt. if they start forcing people from homes, i will be one of the loudest critics. do you even live off the grid? or are you just trying to stir things up?
You truely aren't very good at your your assignment 8:27. If you're going to try to spin you should get a refresher course. "based on citizens complaints" WOW! that sure clears things up. You better hope you never waiver from the prog path 8:27 or maybe some of those same "citizens" will call code enforcement or worse about you.
ReplyDeleteCan't you just give a few examples?
ReplyDeleteNah. It's so much more powerful if you read the full thing and get the full effect. Plus that way you know I'm not cherrypickin' the facts.
Why dontcha just search "balls to the wall" - that oughtta get you to one good example.
If you're good you can find the AEB/Gallegos listserve being used to exhort people to write letters to the editor AGAINST Debi August and supporting your boy Paul. Giving them the talking points. Yeah, very nice.
You know, little things like that.
You just can't get it through your head that he isn't MY boy.
ReplyDeleteWere the complaints that August was involved in a conflict of interest true? Did the investigation start before Stoen even worked at the DA's office? Was the investigation started by the grand jury after complaints from Mel Berti and others about the apparent conflict? Did Debi August say she was going to list those properties? Did she say she was wrong and apologize for being involved in this issue? You can blame anyone you want for any number of things which occurred. That doesn't mean that the DA's office was responsible for it.
As I stated at the very beginning, 2 wrongs don't make a right. To viciously and obscenely attack someone, post their home phone number and tell people late night calls are best for exercising their right to voice an opinion to an elected official on what they would like him to do is unconscionable. Justifying it by claiming that other people smeared people makes no sense. Are you saying that Quilez deserved it because you think August was smeared? Who smeared August? Is it a smear if it is true? She got lucky that the grand jury screwed up. She admitted that there was a conflict of interest, didn't she? How is the DA to blame for the grand jury hiding records?
No one said it was alright to call Carlos late at night. We said there was an answere to your question. But you keep getting your questions flip flopped. Carlos is wrong. August is an example that answeres your question. You don't seem to follow to well and you have mis rep'd Augusts statements and the attack dogs unleashed on her. Two wrongs don't make a right neither does your third.
ReplyDeleteWho smeared August? Again, is Mel Berti a progressive? Were her actions on behalf of the Smith subdivision a conflict of interest?
ReplyDeleteI guess I just don't get what people in Fortuna being upset over August's conflict of interest and their complaints to the grand jury have to do with progressives or why that has anything to do with Quilez. I still haven't seen any evidence of a smear campaign against August or that anyone accused her of doing anything she didn't do.
ReplyDeletequilez is being attacked for using his right to free speech. august was questioned for having a conflict of interest. the issues have nothing in common.
ReplyDeleteaugust was brought up here to change the subject away from the quilez post on the humboldt mirror that many people are upset about.
They are trying to justify the attack on Quilez by claiming progressives do this type of thing all the time, Theo. But the only instance they can give is Debi August but can't explain what that has to do with progressives or smears. Her conflict of interest was quite clear, she was informed that it was a conflict of interest but continued to represent the developer and use her position on the city council to do so. Only a "development at any cost" person would even deny that. Maybe they think that anyone who has any issues over what our elected officials do in the way of helping developers has to be a progressive. I don't get it.
ReplyDeleteWe've covered the August thing here in great detail many times. Citizens complained. An investigation occurred, and the normal outcome would have been a scathing report, leaving the Fortuna City Council to deal with the issue, possible voting to censure her.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened instead was Stoen directed the Grand Jury into a rarely used Accusation against her, with the intent of removing her from office. He charged her with 5 counts, which included everything he could think of - like failing to file FPPC forms accurately and on time.
4 of the 5 charges were tossed by a judge before any trial.
Debi August maintained her innocence and she fought for it. It cost her dearly.
In the course of that whole thing, Salzman sent out the viral email I mentioned above, asking the Orks to send letters against her.
Miller wrote letters condemning Judith Schmidt, the Grand Jury forewoman who came forward to say she thought something was wrong with the way Gallegos and Stoen were handling things.
"I didn't trust him." Remember the headline?
BUT - THAT has nothing to do with what a blogger has posted on his/her/their blog. If you don't like it, go complain over there.
But the August case was a definite example of the selective prosecution this DA engages in.
Except the Grand Jury investigation of August started before Stoen was even hired. They were investigating her on their own and hid the evidence of that. How is the DA's office, Stoen, Miller, or Salzman to blame for that? People have a right to vilify those whose corruption becomes evident, like August. It isn't a smear if it is true.
ReplyDeleteThe INVESTIGATION was normal. A report, even a scathing report, is normal. The accusation process was not.
ReplyDeleteIt's worth noting, actually that Gallegos himself was found to have violated FPPC rules and paid one of the highest fines ever in this county.
As for conflict of interest - what do you think about Gallegos filing the PL suit for his supporters?
Debi August was a target because of her VERY public comments against Gagellgos and Stoen, when Stoen appeared before the Fortuna city council and ASKED the COUNCIL NOT to support the DA RECALL. This incident was well documented in the California Layer magazine.
ReplyDeleteAn excellent example of a public official abusing their position and power. And to think Gallegos is prosecuting former EPD chief Douglas. Gallegos, and team, are trying to keep the EPD in line. And by in line I don't mean they are doing anything wrong. The EPD is getting paid back for supporting Dikeman and for public criticism of Gallegos and some of his clowns (Stoen, Schwartz, Klien). Kind of makes you wonder why the new EPD chief is so buddy buddy with Gallegos?
DA's file complaints all the time that don't pan out. If all the charges they filed were valid we wouldn't need judges and juries. He obviously thought, for good reason, that PALCO's false declarations were evidence of fraud, their forwarding the corrected information to the wrong office later notwithstanding.
ReplyDeleteYou still haven't backed up your claim that progressives smear people with any evidence of progressives doing anything even remotely as nasty as posting someone's home phone number and encouraging late night harrassing calls. Sending out e-mails and letters encouraging letters is done by organizations and people all the time regardless of their political slant.
It has been shown definitively that August was guilty of malfeasance due to her knowledge she was engaged in a conflict of interest but continued that involvement. The people who complained about her had every right to do so and also to try to garner support from others.
btw, I didn't blame you for the nastiness at the Mirror, just pointed it out because you so often claim that there is no valid excuse for bloggers not to use their real names. You then tried to justify that nastiness with the claim that progressives do it too.
So what else do you have?
Yep. I do believe (political) bloggers should use their names - and I do agree that there seems to be a local code of ethics that says don't post home addresses and phone numbers, even though the subjects often use both in their listserve viral emails. There's also a "don't post email addresses in full" code that is generally adhered to with that same caveat.
ReplyDeleteFrankly I think I could post video of Gallegos murdering a homeless woman on the Arcata Plaza in broad daylight and you would still defend him, so I don't think there's much point in carrying this conversation further.
Let's just say that those attacks I mentioned, along with many others, stab just as deeply into the heart of the recipient as you seem to think the simple posting of a phone number has to Carlos Quilez. Time may soften the blow, and to an outside observer it may appear to be a so what> - but to the target of the attack it is anything but.
You'll excuse any and all. I've said that Carlos has a right to his opinion, as does the Mirror, and it is fair to point out that Carlos' letter is not just that of an individual but is part of an orchestrated campaign in the fight for political advantage.
Roger was one who stood in the way of that faction, and they are overjoyed at the prospect of his being removed, albeit tragically, and they are quick to move to prevent anything that might interfere with that newfound advantage.
Who started the orchestrated campaign, Rose? I believe it was your good friend Jill Geist who, unlike Quilez, doesn't even live in the 2nd district.
ReplyDeleteI am not defending Gallegos, but pointing out that ALL DA's make mistakes and lose cases. Blaming him for the August fiasco shows you have no perspective or balance. Blaming progressives for Gallegos is another example. I believe, correct me if I am wrong, that a lot of conservatives also supported Gallegos, including Rob Arkley.
Let's not forget how often you have claimed that progressives are just the lunatic fringe. How could we few have gotten a DA elected twice and stopped a recall? We have zilch political power but are responsible for all the bad things that happen in Humboldt County. Who woulda thunk it?
ReplyDeleteWhen politicians do bad things, they get slapped. If they don't want their bad activities publicized and campaigns organized to do so, they shouldn't do the bad things. You should understand that better than most.
ReplyDeleteI haven't claimed sqwat about "Progressive's".
ReplyDeleteBut I do think Gallegos is a lousy, inept, self serving, corrupt public official. And I do agree with Rose, that unless Mike Wallace and the entire 60 Minutes crew got Gallegos on tape torturing puppies you and your group would defend him.
The PALCO suit is a prime example. He was advised (by his staff) that there was no case. But to appease Kem Miller et al he went ahead. He gets whacked by the court, he appeals, he gets whacked by the appealate court, he goes for the third strike and gets whacked again. He knew it was lame and not winable. He did it anyway, costing who knows how much in county funds and man hours. All to please his supporters (Ken Mille and all) and to be a folk hero to the local Humboldt Only lunatic fringe.
And don't forget that PVG hired Yougofree.com and stood by while that POS dismissed or dealt away dozens if not hundreds of cases!!
ReplyDeleteIs that what you call "progressive"?
Again, why do you blame progressives for Gallegos? Blame Arkley, he helped fund his campaigns and to fight the recall. I never gave him a dime.
ReplyDeleteIf progressives are just the lunatic fringe, how could they have elected Gallegos and blocked his recall. Over 50% of the voters in Humboldt County voted against the recall and for Gallegos. How does that translate to the lunatic fringe? Your claims are contradictory. Either progressives are the majority of voters or they aren't responsible for anyone who is elected in Humboldt County.
ReplyDeleteYou just might be part of the right wing lunatic fringe if you can't understand the inconsistency.
Not 50% of the voters but more than 50% of those that voted on those two elections (the recall and the last election). AND AGAIN I never said shit about "progressives". Why are you so fixated on that?
ReplyDeleteYes Arkley gave money and support to Gallegos and I would bet he feels bad about it now, BIG mistake.
Step away from all the politics for a minute. Do you really think Gallegos is doing a good job as the District Attorney? I mean really, on the merits of what he has done or not done? Just his lack of basic managment skills would be enough to get him fired/dismissed in a non elected position.
He hired Tim Stoen to be his number 2 !!!! That should have sent RED FLAGS up to any rational person. Stoen had sooooooo much negative baggage, many blame him for the Jonestown mass sucide. Gallegos fired two of the best DA's Humboldt has ever had just becasue he didn't like them. AND several other DDA's left because they were career/professional prosecutors that enjoyed being prosecutors but couldn't work for PVG any longer , not the dreg's like Yougofree, Jose, Jose's girlfriend, the nut with the multicolored hair, and the list goes on.
How many vacations does Gallegos take a year? Timeshares in Mexico and Hawaii? How does he pay for all his vacations? I'm curious. Do some of his "supporters" assist him on his vacations, letting him use a timeshare or vacation rental?
How is it that Rose never got all her stat's on CAST cases?
We'll see what happens. He's put alot into the prosecution of the EPD chief/Lt AND Gunderson. The two are extremely different but each high profile. I have confidence that the case against the EPD brass will be dismissed or if by chance it goes to court they will be exonerated. This Gunderson thing I'm not too sure of. I'd like Gunderson to get his just deserts but something just seems kind of "stinky" about that case, the investigation and victims. Time will tell.
DID I MENTION THE PLAGIARISM??? That was really pathetic.
"right wing lunatic fringe" ? No, just a moderately conservative working person with more than half a brain and knows the difference between right and wrong.
I've gone on too much. Anyway I hope the rest of your Sunday goes well.
Maybe you are confused because you jumped into a conversation I was having with Rose. As I have said MANY MANY TIMES, I am NOT a Gallegos supporter. Rose continues to conflate Gallegos with progressives which I have tried over and over again to point out isn't the case. One of the most conservative people in our county gave Gallegos many thousands of dollars for his campaign, certainly more than any other contributor.
ReplyDeleteWhat I have said repeatedly is that well meaning thoughtful intelligent caring people looked at the Palco lawsuit and the Recall and saw something that rightfully horrified them. They saw what was portrayed - a company trying to buy their way out of a lawsuit. And they did the right thing.
ReplyDeleteBut what they never got a glimpse of was the other side.
The well-funded dedicated decades-long effort to get that very company, the unending lawsuits, the lobbying in the halls of Congress, and the final securing of a DA who would drive home a stake.
They saw David v Goliath, and never saw the equally large Goliath on the other side. They never heard about Shellenberger, Fenton Communications, or any of the things that went along with it.
Rob Arkley was one of those who saw something horrific and he put up money to help.
Only when he realized that something wasn't quite right, and there was some sort of parting of the ways between he and the Salzman gang, a public denunciation of Salzman by Rob - "I see how you operate" I believe were the words - only then did Rob suddenly become the villain, and the attacks begin on him.
And those same people who took his money now vilify him when he uses it in similar goings on, to try to help right a wrong. They vilify him no matter what he does. It defies rational thought, and yet it goes on. I wish he hadn't supported Gallegos, but I understand the reasons he did so. He didn't like farmer in the first place - many didin't. And in the Recall, he saw injustice. It's pretty clear.
I've watched it. It's easy to see.
Personally I think we are all too focusined on something that means nothing. Labels. Democrat, Republican. Progressive (as if that is a party) - the Star Bellied Sneetches all.
ReplyDeleteRun everybody through the machine a couple half dozen times until no one remembers what the stupid labels and stars mean, and you will find we are not all that dissimilar, and maybe some rational thought could prevail. People could be elected once again because they were imminently qualified, not because they had kissed the right ass, or had the right colored star on their belly.
A Republican president could appoint a Democrat to a cabinet position, and vice versa, there would be no partisan battles, no jockeying for position that leavers the people in the dust.
Ahh, that's enough. Going back outside to work in the garden.
You progs are really weird. No corporate money in good old humboldt,except casino corporate money going to your side. Slander aganist anyone you don't like but by God nobody better attack your guys. HA! Neeley started the ball rolling and Carlos stuck his smelly foot right in his mouth. Try to justify that and you simply show your foolishness.
ReplyDeleteSo there is one question that still has not been answered?
ReplyDeleteWhat has Gallegos REALLY done well?
So you are unable admit that people could have very good reasons to hide their identity on blogs. You think people should risk harrassing late night calls and obscene insults )and who knows what else considering the type of people who would do such things, Anon.r.mous seems capable of any sort of maliciousness) if they want to exercise their right to speech. Initially you were making a half assed effort to justify such actions by saying "your guys do it too" but then couldn't support it with facts, so now it is wrong to do those things but people should still use their real names. Got it.
ReplyDeleteAnd the fruitloop at 4:21 is STILL refusing to even admit what was done to Quilez at the mirror was wrong.
ReplyDeleteBtw, there has been no evidence that Neely did anything about the appointment. Nothing in the news about it. Nothing on the blogs except anonymous (and we know how much credibility anonymous has). However, it is well documented in the news that Arkley, Emerson, Geist, and Mrs. Rodoni all wrote letters asking for her to be appointed BEFORE THE FUNERAL! Those were the first letters written for which there is documentation at this point.
Do you ever slow down and THINK before you post your comments?
ReplyDeleteI don't have to slow down to think.
ReplyDeleteYou might want to try it.
ReplyDeleteYou're jumping the gun all over the place and you don't listen to the answers you are given.
"How many vacations does Gallegos take a year? Timeshares in Mexico and Hawaii?"
ReplyDeleteits amazing how often left wing ideals come out of the mouths of "conservatives"...........does wealth envy cross political lines? i always associate it with the left.
That's pretty funny Theo. I always associate the very idea of envy over material goods with the right. Most leftists I know put wealth on a much lower level of importance than the right, preferring to enjoy life and time with family and friends over working 80 hours a week.
ReplyDelete7:20,
ReplyDeletehere is how ive always looked at it:
two guys are driving down the road one day and they drive past a big mansion. one guy(a left winger), says "thats sick, no one should to able to live like that, we should raise taxes". the other guy(a right winger), says "no my friend, everyone should be able to live like that, we should lower taxes."
the fact that leftists put wealth on a "much lower level"(your own words), says it all. they are more likley to punish people for being successful or for inheriting money.
I agree with you, Theo. And we all SHOULD.
ReplyDeleteBut where the distaste comes in is when someone professes that leftism, and then lives the other (Like good old pastor Wright, moaning about the plight of the poor black people, and building himself a 10,000 sq. ft. mansion with money borrowed for him by the church... that kinda thing.)
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat and was for distribution of all wealth. She felt deeply ashamed that her Father was a rather staunch Republican, which she expressed openly.
ReplyDeleteOne day she was challenging her father on his beliefs and his opposition to higher taxes on the rich & more welfare programs. In the middle of her heartfelt diatribe, based upon the lectures she had from her far left professors at her school, he stopped her and asked her point blank, how she was doing in school.
She answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain. That she had to study all the time, never had time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have many college friends. All her time was spent studying because she was taking a more difficult curriculum.
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Mary?"
She replied, "Mary is barely getting by", she continued. "All she has is barely a 2.0 GPA. And all she takes are easy classes and she never studies." To explain further she continued emotionally, "And Mary is so very popular on campus, college for her is a blast. She goes to all the parties all the time and very often doesn't even show up for classes because she is too hung over."
Her father then asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your 4.0 GPA and give it to your friend whom only had a 2.0." He continued, "That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter visibly shocked by the father's suggestion angrily fired back, That wouldn't be fair! I worked really hard for mine, I did without and Mary has done little or nothing. She played while I worked real hard!"
The father slowly smiled and said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
back to vacations in hawaii and mexico. from my experience, both left and right wingers travel there. the fact that people complain about other people going on vacation is sad.
ReplyDeletei would expect that a lawyer makes 100 grand a year, MINIMUM. plus, he has little kids, id be going to hawaii and mexico as much as possible before they became teenagers and didnt want to spend anytime with me.
A good reason for him to go back to private practice, Theo. then his time would be his own.
ReplyDeleteThe question is, do all the Deputy DAs get the same amount of playtime as the boss?
That's another place where the distaste comes in. It's that pullin' your own weight thing.
There are phonies and con men in every profession and supposed political persuasion. You obviously don't understand people who think everyone should have enough before anyone has lavish luxuries. If you did, you too would be a leftist.
ReplyDeleteDo you really keep track of his vacation time? You should see Bush's vacation record. :)
ReplyDeleteSo you are unable {to} admit that people could have very good reasons to hide their identity on blogs.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you afraid of? What is heraldo afraid of?
Fred's not afraid. Carson Park Ranger is not afraid. Carol and Greg and Ernie and Eric and Mark (K) are not afraid.
What are YOU afraid of?
I don't want to have to censor my opinions out of fear of being targeted by the crazies and I don't have to take the risk. It's funny that you only care about knowing the identities of people whose opinions you don't like. Why do care so much? You get people to use their real names and the crazies that read you like Anon.r.mous who delights in harrassing people when he disagrees with them to the dirty work. You must admit there are some pretty unstable people on some of these blogs. I don't want my dog poisoned or my windows smashed when they don't get enough satisfaction just harrassing me with obscene phone calls.
ReplyDeleteOoohhh. OK. You've convinced me. I will stop using my name and start posting anonymously. That'll make everything so much better won't it.
ReplyDeleteOoohhh. OK. You've convinced me. I will stop using my name and start posting anonymously. That'll make everything so much better won't it.
ReplyDeleteWell that is so much easier. What a load off my mind.
I don't care if you post anonymously or not and don't understand why you care so much what others do. I suspect it is because you like your nose in everyone else's business and enjoy the personal attacks. But that's just a guess. You only seem to want to know who people are who post anonymously who you disagree with and that does raise red flags. For instance, who is that fruitloop who posted above still justifying the attack on Quilez because he didn't like the letter he wrote? When people aren't satisfied with just agreeing to disagree and have to take it further to "reach out and touch someone" with harrassing phone calls, they are mentally ill and don't need to know who people are. Since no one can control who accesses the information from a blog or what they do with that information, anonymity is a better choice for those who don't want to be "touched" either with a phone call or other forms of crazy mischief. But like every other difference of opinion here, you will pretend there is no basis, get sarcastic or rude and there can be no meeting of the minds even to agree to disagree. You might be one the fruitloop above posting as anonymous.
ReplyDeleteI allow anonymous comments - like yours. That ought to be enough to tell you I do not have a problem with people posting anonymously. If I did, there are remedies. I can disallow anonymous comments. I can enable comment moderation. I can close off comments altogether.
ReplyDeleteGuessing who people are is just part of the game, honey.
Enjoy your guessing game then, honey.
ReplyDeletewe get that you're upset anonymous 7:16 but you are guessing right along with all of us and you are just as anonymous as all of us, you're making me laugh.
ReplyDeletenot in a funny way though
ReplyDeleteI don't play guessing games about who is who. I don't give a damn. I judge each opinion on its own merit and I wasn't complaining about anonymous posters so your post doesn't make sense. I am laughing at you too. Rose is the one who thinks everyone whose opinion she disagrees with should use their names.
ReplyDeleteRose, I've been reading your blog for awhile now - what I find troubling is that regardless of a person's position on PVG - unless and until a person knows about the detailed facts of a particular case, how can anyone make an informed comment about how it was handled? The personal attacks against those who work in that office are simply obscene. Some people moved here just wanting to live in the area and feel a strong work ethic towards community service - that's what prosecutors (and public defenders) do - a valuable community service. I have often cringed at the vile and seemingly baseless mud slinging at many of the deputy d.a.s - from where does this animosity come?
ReplyDeleteThey don't need to know the particulars of a case. They damn them even when they win because they didn't win big enough to suit them. When he files charges they bitch. When he doesn't charge they bitch. When he plea bargains they bitch. There is a personal aspect to the hatred of Gallegos which flows over everyone in his office. I have tried to point out that no one does everything right or wrong, but they can't ever admit anything was done properly. In Rose's case, apparently Alison Jackson is a personal friend so that could explain her irrational hatred. Some of them hate him because of the PALCO lawsuit. Some for the August case. Some are just haters.
ReplyDelete11:08 you confuse hatred with disgust of incompetence.
ReplyDeleteRose doesn't have irrational hatred. What she has is a very rational disgust for Gallegos' lack of competence and his corruptness.
We all get that.
And I did like Paul Hagan's My Word piece and his letter in the ER. Is that irrational hatred also? I think not brother. The vast majority of us think your friend Paul is a humiliation.
And I have found Rose repeatedly giving some of the dda's an attaboy when they did well, so your criticism that Rose never admits anything was done properly is simply empty. Go back and review some of her posts.
Anonymous DA supporter and heraldo,HWC clone,August was only one very public example. Of course you know that all to well. You folks are slick but not transparent. Woolley is a clasic case in point. He got the ax from his prog buddies but in exchange signed on to a future state appointment if he backed the paid lobbiest mark lovelace to take his place. Even though a fool Woolley is always the good soldier. Or should we say comrad. You give spin a bully try Anonymous but you've only got your bloody NEC,EPIC,HWC,Baykeeper puppets impressed. With all your filtered in Soros and dope money you just might get others to buy your line of shit. After all the 3rd has a history of carpet baggers to look back on and they all support the DA and lovelace. Imagine that.
ReplyDeleteHATERS!
ReplyDeletewow.....that last post had more stereotypes in it than i can take for one day!!!
ReplyDeleteanger management may help....
the second to last post
ReplyDeleteStephen's disguise as Anonymous 11:50 is great isn't it? Who would ever recognize him in that? :P
ReplyDeleteWhat 11:50 posted could have been worded better---but--- it's point in on the mark. What to do about code enforcement? If Mark gets elected he'll try very hard to put you all in a city. The revolving door of politics in Humboldt Counties new good old boy's(girls) club will try very hard to get rid all who resist. Open space will be the relm of good managment,with the help of the Nature Conservany,that the well connected political activists will run.
ReplyDelete11:55,11:55,11:56,1:04, the truth hurts. Dough Nut!
ReplyDeleteI just heard the ad for lovelace. PUKE! Can anyone believe Cheesbro talking about what's good for this county. He has make a life off of our tax money and hasn't done a damn thing for this county. As chairman of the state committee over Californias money he was a zero. Help keep this state in the shitter. Way to go,Wes. I'll sure pay attention to your endorsements. HA!
ReplyDelete"If Mark gets elected he'll try very hard to put you all in a city."
ReplyDeleteis that really the best argument that can be made against the guy? i keep hearing it again and again, and wondering to myself "who is gonna believe that paranoid BS"?. i doubt that i agree with much that lovelace agrees with, but making silly claims isnt helping win any people over who may be "on the fence"(such as myself).
or are you really that much of a wimp that you wont be able to tell lovelace that you want to stay where you are? if he gets elected, i wont be afraid of losing my property. but im not a paranoid wimp.
Be afraid, be very afraid! Where have I heard that before? People who have to resort to such scare tactics aren't to be trusted.
ReplyDeleteHey theotherme - vote for anyone you want to. A lot of us don't give a damn. Are you on the fence and a voter in the third district? Or the second?
ReplyDeleteFrom what you write you really seemed uneducated as to what Mark's position is on living in the city. He adamantly supports not allowing people to build in rural areas. That doesn't mean me moving from sohum to Eureka. It does mean my kids won't be able to live near me and may end up moving to another county though.
good thing mark isnt trying for a position on the planning deptartment. in my lifetime, ive never dealt with a county supervisor when developing a property. im sure that having a supervisor as a friend could help with getting a permit that is otherwise unable to obtain, if that is what you are getting at.
ReplyDeleteby the way, wont the general plan update be approved before the new supervisor gets in power? if so, dont use that argument.
I'm constantly amazed at how dumb you pretend to be theo. It's a good ploy. A general plan ,even a draconian one,is just that.general. If the board of sups are weighted by zero growthers,then anything appealed to them would fair accordingly. BUT you know all that you sly little trickster.
ReplyDelete"Be arfaid" well 4:08 you should know. You've been preaching that lie to get your grips on our timber industry and sell our kids on following your radical positions. The thing to be afraid about mark lovelace is that he is a smiling,look you in the eye lier. A paid lobbiest to sway the county general plan,to gain take overs of private property and to advance a zero growth yuktopia for our next generations. Running him for a supervisor seat shows the true distain your people have for honest,hard working,citizens who believe in self determination and private property rights. To see the list of con-men supporting him is very disturbing.
ReplyDeletei have my doubts that anyone is a "zero growther".....if you think that you are being tricked, that is another sign of paranoia....
ReplyDeleteRose really needs to start a Save the Right Wing Nut organization. Maybe she can get an injunction against more progressives moving in and furthering their decline into extinction.
ReplyDeleteYou are probably right theo and clone 6:19 but you are the ones that will need the protection from the progressive hords. When you're allowed to take a fond gaze at the open space comrad Mark has saved for you while traveling on your walkable community path just remember the good old days of freedom when those Nuts were around.
ReplyDeletetheo, the true sign of paranoia is constantly thinking others are. Take a vacation dude. Balance is the answere. That's why I'll vote for Paul Patino.
ReplyDelete6:40 said:
ReplyDelete"When you're allowed to take a fond gaze at the open space comrad Mark has saved for you...."
i think you meant to say BOUGHT FROM me, not SAVED FOR me. if you are claiming that lovelace will buy my undeveloped land from me and promise to not develop it, he gets my vote. no one else is buying real estate now.
its all a matter of perspective...
He won't buy it. He will help devalue it and/ or make it so restrictive to use that you will sell your grandchildrens future for a short term tax break. Lovelace is a clasic take from the haves(people who have busted their butts for what they have) and give to the have nots(people who will have no future or great expectations) when the new age agenda Mark shills for is attained. That may seem to over the top to you theo. If so it just shows how dumbed down we all are becomming. lovelace is a simple phony propped up by phonies from the past. Do you want an Arcata plazoid reality running this county? If so, by all means vote for the little feller.
ReplyDelete8:54,
ReplyDeletewhat is the "new age" agenda? please be very specific. your last post sounded like it came from a person whos political education consists solely of rush limbaugh shows and the eureka reporter newspaper, so i need some real specific examples this time.
No Theo, Ann Coulter.
ReplyDeletethe main "zero growthers" i see are the people who dont want "newcomers" moving into the area. funny how the US economy is based on growth, but the knucledraggers in our society want to keep growth to a minimum.
ReplyDeletetheotherme-
ReplyDeleteHow many different you's are there?
You change course so frequently, I wonder if you really should call yourself "Sybil."
11:03,
ReplyDeletewhat course am i changing? im a libertarian, deal with it.
im a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. thats not "changing course".
the funny thing is, you didnt even attempt to debunk any of my arguments.
Theo : that is only because they are so convoluted that it is near impossible to follow them.
ReplyDeleteNo one can debunk your arguments theo. You don't make any. You just blabber double doses of weird think-speak. Try working more bother people less.
ReplyDeleteK - guys - I deleted the insults between you that were just that with no points attached.
ReplyDeleteTheo makes some good points, let's talk it through and not get into piss-insults. :)
Entertaining as it is and all.
being called gay, over and over, is not entertaining. its what a 3rd grader does when they cant think of anything else to say.
ReplyDeletethe fact of the matter is, ill screw who i want. and i will let you screw who you want. but im just a crazy libertarian.
ReplyDeletethis goes right to the heart of the code enforcement and permit issue. some people want to force their beliefs on others. whether is how i build my house, or who i have sex with, or where i choose to build my house, GET OUT OF MY FREAKIN BUSINESS!!!!!!!
if you are affected by my building, go to the planning office and fight my project. if you are pissed off at who i am screwing, you are out of luck.
And on that, Theo, we agree wholeheartedly.
ReplyDeleteAs to the entertainment value, that's why I deleted them. It's counterproductive.
It's just to much for theo. He's a neo-socialist and doen't even know it. Theo if you can justify a paid lobbiest (makk lovelace) not having a conflict over the general plan,among other things, you're not the man or (?) you claim you are. The reason he freaks out so bad is that he gets called on his stupid positions. AND,I don't mean while he's having sex. LOL
ReplyDeleteI see theo posting often on other blods too. He makes a few good points but most often he's just a bit off. Goofy one might say. It is entertaining to see how others play with me though. He seems to very thin cyber-skinned.
ReplyDelete"Theo if you can justify a paid lobbiest (makk lovelace) not having a conflict over the general plan,among other things, you're not the man or (?) you claim you are."
ReplyDeletewhat in god's name are you talking about? ive never justified anything about lovelace. get a clue.