Sunday, October 19, 2008

By Request - The "Censored By Heraldo" Support Group


The "Censored By Heraldo" Support Group - Because of continuing reports of censorship, and complaints about being blocked from commenting on The Humboldt Herald from numerous sources, this will remain an open thread. linked in the sidebar. Anyone see a pattern?

Discussion: Talking Tech - Censorship: A Failed Policy

✂ Here was a comment deleted from the Humboldt Herald just tonight. (Oct. 13)
From now on, I'm double posting everything I post there to watchpaul. We need to watchheraldo too since they are part of the same dirty money machine.

"Good point about the dirty phony DUHC money, Rose. All those Democracy Unlimited gangsters like David Cobb and Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap should be investigated by the Secret Service for violating the constitution by coining legal tender without an Act of Congress."

✂ #2?
Now Heraldo/ette is censoring comments calling Kaitlin's re-election into question.

Part of the same pattern of shilling for the DUHCs and their pro-Measure T, anti-fluoride antics.

"Since Davies and Schultz support a public vote on fluoridization, with Sopoci-Belknap and Hecathorn opposing even a public forum on the subject, it's not difficult to see who is being misguided. "Democracy Unlimited" indeed!

And Arcata and Eureka have had fluoride for 50 years now. Do you claim we're all stupid now, Nice?"

✂ Censored comment #3:
"Yup, 65% of voters in Arcata are too dense. Probably 70-75% of voters in Eureka support fluoride too, they must be uneducatable too.

That's a real winning strategy for Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap, deny the voters the right to even have a forum or a vote on what they want the water district to do.

Democracy Unlimited? Not really."

✂ Censored comment #4: Do we detect a trend here, or even venturing closer to the identity of Heraldo as one of the DUHCs?
"Why not just use calcium fluoride if you're so concerned about sodium?

It seems to me you disprove your own argument. Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap voted against holding a public forum on district-wide fluoridization. Her opponent calls for a public vote on fluoride, she's against it.

If the public is so sympathetic to your cause, why do you oppose putting this issue before the public?

Democracy Unlimited seems pretty limited when it comes to how Kaitlin is "representing" the voters of Eureka."

✂ Censored comment #5. Now Heraldo doesn't want any Corbett criticism included. Remember who Local Solutions backed in the last MCSD races, Rose?
"John Corbett has always been a slimeball. Once he witnessed someone obviously getting stalked and harassed in the hall outside the courtrooms here in Eureka, usual sort of family court stuff. John Corbett didn't lift a finger; instead he let out this snickering laugh and even made fun of the person who called for the sheriffs to intervene and prevent an outbreak of violence. I know this because I was attending a hearing that morning and I witnessed him behaving like a jackal.

He also ran the Arcata Co-Op into massive amounts of debt in the boondoggle remodeling of their Arcata store in 2000 which almost drove them out of business (the Eureka relocation with all its problems was idyllic by comparison to the massive disruption in Arcata). Their own finance chiefs will tell you that the North Coast Co-Op is neck deep in debt to this day because of Corbett's mismanagement of the Arcata remodel. That's why they had to turn to Arkley to finance the Eureka relocation, because they couldn't increase their debt load. Go ahead, ask 'em.

Corbett also oversaw the blind eye attitude of the air quality board towards the pulp mill, which operated for nearly two years under the Chinese without installation of the necessary scrubbers to cut down on the particulate levels and noxious chemicals released. People got sick because of the arrogant disregard for public safety exhibited by the local air board, which Corbett is the chair of.

Let's not even get started with the McKinleyville CSD board and how Corbett lets the GM run wild acting more like a dictator than like a general manager. That guy made Dan Hauser appear to have a benevolent management style by comparison."

✂ Censored comment #6 from the Herald:
"The "socialist" representative and Democrat repping us in Congress is Mike Thompson. He voted for the rescue package once it was fixed up.

But leave it to that economics expert Bill Holmes to figure out this stuff for the rest of us.

"We don’t have to entice any businesses to come here" what a gem Bill! What vision!

If he were really interested in electing Democrats, Bill wouldn't be backing conspiracy theorist Greens like Carol "Pot Doctor" Wolman and Kaitlin "Mea$ure T" Sopoci-Belknap-Cobb."

✂ Censored comment #7. Heraldo is sure scared of any criticism.
"You're wrong, mresquan. The Water Board was considering the fluoridation of all residential water. With Kaitlin and the since-resigned Randy Turner's help, they turned their back on accepting further public input on the issue.

This is why Buzz Webb is running in McKinleyville too, by his own admission. He was shocked how our Water Board would turn its back on public health, as was Stephen Davies. My best wishes to both of them to restore sanity to the water board.

And shame on you Heraldo for calling someone a lunatic just for disagreeing with you. It's a tactic worthy of McCain."

✂ *replacement* censored comment #7,(8) yet again a response to misinfo from Bill Holmes, Heraldo's new best friend:
"The local ACLU supports F & J along with the Green Party?

But according to Bill Holmes, the ACLU are chock-full of "completely corrupted freaks" who deserve to be purged Green Party-style due to their principled opposition to Measure T (ironically, on the very free speech grounds Bill would deny them).

And just look what the Cobb/Holmes treatment has done for the Greens: 20% decline in a single year, according to the Times-Standard?

Make up your mind Bill, are Measures F and J good for the children of our community, or is it more important to enforce your peculiar ideological conformity? Does free speech only apply to people and organizations who agree with Bill Holmes 100% of the time without exception?"

✂ Censored comment #8: (9)
"So Davies being co-counsel with another lawyer on a totally unrelated case means he is personally responsible for everything that other lawyer does in cases which don't involve him?

We can only imagine what can be pinned on your hero Gallegos now considering who he's been associated with, starting with Tim Stoen. Actually, that's worse: Davies sure didn't hire Schectman at taxpayer expense, they were both hired by a third party. Gallegos actively recruited Stoen, and entirely on the county's bill.

If Kaitlin really wants to go there to slime her opponent, I guess it's fair game to ask about David Cobb's long-time employment by a big insurance company in Texas back when he actually was a lawyer. My goodness, Cobb a Corporate Lawyer, heaven forbid!"

#8 was re-posted by Heraldo as "Anonymous" with the second and third paragraphs cut out.

✂ Censored comment #9 (10) from the Sopoci-Belknap campaign manager aka Heraldo:
"I hope Big Boss Man is right about Kaitlin. She's accomplished nothing in the last four years in office."

✂ Censored comment #10, (11) yet again Heraldo covers for Bill Holmes making idiotic claims:
"Who exactly is Bill Holmes to lecture anyone about local economic development?

Let's review: Our often stoned friend Highboldtage has never created a job for anyone, anywhere, ever, has never owned a successful business, and has no academic credentials in economics or in business administration.

Rose pointed out to him how local thrift stores aren't even accepting children's clothing with the glut of it. But don't let facts stop Bill from spinning more bullshit about how some government subsidized clothing factory will save Humboldt County. After all, we grow so much cotton around here."


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Anonymous said...

Thank you Rose. It's about time Heraldo and his bullying little puppet Bill Holmes were exposed.

Anonymous said...

Obsessed

Obsessed

Obsessed

Stephen said...

Great, Rose! Now I can post comments to Heraldo too! I've been banned from posting on Heraldo for a long time because Ken and his gang can't face real criticism. They've got to hide themselves one way or another. I'll have to start reading Heraldo again to see what I comment on and post it here. Most everybody who reads Heraldo reads you, Rose, as we can tell from Richard's comment above..

Rose said...

Well, it's interesting - there have been others censored in the past, submitted here - I'll see what I can find.

Sometimes I can see no reason for them to be censored. Other times, I can see why (s)he did it. And, there have been a number of occasions where it's been 100% justified. So it's a mixed bag. You may end up saying heraldo's totally justified. Let's see.

Anonymous said...

Not so sure. Ken/Heraldo has deleted my post's in the past; usually for having a different opinion with some facts to back it up. Hearaldo doesn't like facts.

Anonymous said...

This is an excellent idea! Posted comments censored by Heraldo come here to be composted! You are a sly one, Rose. You are probably the first blogger to have a compost thread. Think of the possibilities. Charge by the yard! Grow earth worms! Capture Methane! Sell these products and the aged compost for a nice profit! Contact Erik Kirk's Sohum Parlance - I see a potential exponential growth opportunity. Turning a blog into a landfill never would have crossed my mind. Ingenious!

Stephen said...

Composted Heraldo deletions will bloom here, Rose. You can already see the worried Progressive whoretaculturists posting their concerns, like the above..

Anonymous said...

Stephen Lewis is Buster Luce

He's bustin' loose some compost juice

His compost has an awesome fume

Do not smell it's deadly bloom

Buster Luce is Bustin' loose

He's bustin' loose

He's got the juice

Stephen Lewis just busted loose

Anonymous said...

Their latest tactic over on Heraldo is to tear down the ACLU. Why? Because critics of Measure T/DUHC keep bringing up "the Constitution," how dare they!

mresquan said...

Which post and/or comments are you getting that out of?

Anonymous said...

They're coming from "ACLWHO?" who conflates concern with constitutional values and the evil, wicked local ACLU because they came out against Measure T.

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 7:39 am
Speaking of constitutional values, who is on the board of directors of our local ACLU chapter? Why is the right wing extremist Rose so happy with them at the moment?

Anonymous Says:
October 20, 2008 at 8:46 am
I don’t see anyone bringing up the ACLU on this thread, Rose or otherwise. I don’t think a plant closing is a civil liberties issues.

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:09 am
I was responding to the one-note Davies campaign. When they post lies, I will respond wherever it is. They brought up the constitution, I responded.

“the only thing keeping Demockery Limited trickery from totally abrogating our Constitutional values.”

Anonymous Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:20 am
So anyone who disagrees with the thug tactics of Democracy Unlimited must, therefore, be Stephen Davies?

That makes a lot of sense. After all, Stephen Davies is pulling the puppet strings on the Times-Standard, the Eureka Reporter, the Eureka Chamber of Commerce, the Libertarian Party, the Republican Party, the Eureka Greens, the Mayors of Eureka and Fortuna, Chris Crawford, Eric Kirk, Rob Arkley, Robert Ziegler, John Campbell, Michael Machi, Brad Freeman, etc. etc. etc.

They all opposed Measure T, but it all must be Stephen’s fault. Riiiight…

But thanks for providing a good example of Democracy Unlimited-inspired bullying, it shows what a big threat Stephen must present to you in running against Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap.

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:31 am
Birds of a feather…….

Republicans, rightwingnuts, chambers of commerce and Rose.

Your last post speaks volumes about yourself, Davies.

Anonymous Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:41 am
I’m not Davies, but thanks for playing the GUESSING GAME!

So by your logic, we can assume that:

A. You are a member of Democracy Unlimited.

B. You are Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap, her boyfriend David Cobb, or someone else who bunks at the haunted house of DUHC.

C. You really really hate the ACLU for agreeing with the federal courts on the unconstitutionality of Measure T.

Oh, but wait, Stephen must control the federal courts too, right? Anything else just wouldn’t be tinfoily enough.

Anonymous Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:44 am
Eric Kirk is a right wing nut?

See that’s the problem with these losers Democracy Unlimited imports to Humboldt, they have no knowledge of local politics and history.

Eric Kirk is a leading supporter of Obama in our county, not to mention Clif Clendenen — shock — who is being supported by Kaitlin, who you’re busy shilling for!

Explain that one away, ACLUhater.

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:47 am
Who does Stephen Davies support for President?

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:49 am
Let’s ask Eric if he is proud to be included in that list of reactionaries that you submitted, Davies.

ACLWHO? Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:53 am
Is Christina Allbright good with the misogynistic campaign that Davies is conducting against Kaitlin? How about it Christina?

Anonymous Says:
October 20, 2008 at 9:56 am
How should I know, and why should I care, to 9:47. Since he’s a Democrat, I would venture a guess that it’d be Obama.

As for whether Eric is proud or not, well, how should I know and why should I care? Eric Kirk wrote a long dissertation on why Measure T was flawed, and I think he managed to do it all by himself as a lawyer in his own right (unlike, say, anyone associated with Democracy Unlimited).

Davies’ number is on his SmartVoter page, why don’t you call him up and ask him yourself? My comments will just keep on appearing here, which should indicate I’m not him to any rational person who wants to test your ridiculous theory…but we’re not dealing with rationality when dealing with an ACLUhater like you.

It was at least worth a laugh to see you get all flustered over anyone mentioning the Constitution, since it’s Democracy Unlimited’s ultimate goal to tear it down.

Anonymous said...

Had 100rds of post deleted or just not posted. Heraldo is a biased hack at best. Anyone who swings her way gets top billing. They are truly sad,unhappy people. Can you imagine what positive things they might accomplish if they started minding their own buisness and living their own lives?

Anonymous said...

Just posted this, and of course it was blocked on Heralo Campbell thread:

"NAN, what an ass you are. The man is not even in the ground and you spew this shit.

That article is about as biased as one can be; nobody forced the Murphys to take their company public. As the article states, it was not Campbell who did that to Murphy as far as getting him out of that home - a reasonable assumption is that during the hectic times of the takeover there was a lack of communication.

Also telling is Murphy's reaction - that he just got pissed and moved out, when a simple call to Campbell would have more than likely rectified the situation."

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rose. I have been banned 5 or six times. Sometimes it is because I callnot a native a fucking idiot and back my case up. Other times it seems they do not like conflicting information over there.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I'd like to see more posts that use words like shit, fuck, ass, etc. deleted. There is plenty of ways to post without using profanity. I believe it actually makes the poster sound unintelligent and juvenile. Just my take-

Rose said...

Fair enough 7:47 - but if you look at the 10 comments in the original post above, none of those words were present.

It's an interesting dilemma. And, I'd say it is primarily a problem related to political blogs. I don't think you are going to get alot of disagreement, hostility and profanity on a knitting blog.

Rose said...

Wait - what's that? ACLWHO? On heraldo? And somehow I get dragged into that one? Huh?

I guess I better go check that one out. Pretty funny stuff.

I'm not a supporter of Davies - don't know anything about the guy. Not particularly a supporter of Kaitlin's either, but ...

Anonymous said...

7:47-
Yes there are plenty of words available to describe Non A Native, but only "fucking idiot" carries the proper intended message. Village idiot, stupid idiot, those just don't carry the water for him/her. I was responding to his/her assertion that the economic or manufacturing "paradigm has shifted" and that manufacturing will not longer be specialized, but more generalized with machines that create multiple products, even new manufacturing machines. For that I called him a fucking idiot and asked for some specific examples. Of course, my post was deleted, just like when I would ask Jane Doe the same types of questions. They are probably the same person, protected by Heraldo so smart people won't cuss them out for their stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Thanks to you Rose! Seems like Heraldo is less ban happy the last couple of days or so. Exposing hypocrisy must have left him feeling butthurt.

Anonymous said...

Just watch, Heraldo will be right back at it when we let our guard down

Anonymous said...

Carol posted this lovely tid bit over at Heraldo's blog - but, of course I could not respond, as for some reason I am blockded now:

"I did not know Mr. Campbell personally, but his lovely daughter once was my daughter’s ballet teacher at The Dancer’s Studio. My condolences are quite sincere to his family. It was not known to me that Mr. Campbell was ill until I read this post."

This is innocuous on the surface, but just so LIKE Carol and Greg to want to be a part of every happening event in Humboldt County. It's sick. It's prafane.

Carol, you moron, John Campbell never had a daughter. I'm glad that you got to know her though.

Anonymous said...

Wow! The bullshit stories are sure flying around the local blogs today!

mresquan said...

"John Campbell never had a daughter."

Huh,for some reason I remember reading sometime ago on a blog somewhere that Steve Lewis was a friend of his daughter's.

Stephen said...

This is great. Darryl Cherney, well-known for his honest appraisal of those in his way, libeled me several times on KMUD radio with the absurd slander that I was dating "John Campbell's daughter"! You do have to get a chuckle out of this absurd attempt to smear my name when I was dating the cousin of the former wife of John Campbell, the lost daughter John had when he was about 5 years old. This just goes to show what inanities go on in the name of enviro and Progressive paranoia of mainstream Humboldt citizens.

Anonymous said...

Captain Steve Ahab is obsessed with liberals. One above all! He sails this vast cesspool in search of the great white liberal whale - Moby Dick. Ahem! Er, that is, I mean to say, Heraldo. He means to smite his great quarry with his harpoon that he has forged upon it's tip a great peace sign that has tasted the bitterness of his long and fruitless hunt. Oh, the bitterness of unrequited vengeance. Oh, this lunatic Ahab that hunts. Aye, mates. Rum all around.

Stephen said...

Aye, ye speak God's truth threw yer rotted teeth for them that were there with me saw it for their own eyes when Moby blew bloody mist, the tell-tail that spirit sword o' peace went through and through, naught any white blubber to hold back its cold steel of violence vanquished for all eternity.

Anonymous said...

Argh! Get abaft there, ye teller of tall tales! Ye have never cast yer gnostic god fearin' eyes upon the great liberal beast. Ye have cast yer ill-shapen iron and struck the ship's cat! Ye don't know yer ship's spar from yer ship's cat from yer ship's mizzenmast. Aye, old Tom was a fine mouser what was laid low.

Anonymous said...

Aye, twas clearly a case of misidentification by a rum-soaked harpooner. Judgmentally impaired and emotionally out of control he advanced upon poor Tom, the ship's fine mouser. Raising his his ill-shapen iron above his head he moved to corner poor Tom. He then spoke the words that froze my heart. "Hear me, ye great liberal beast; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee." Then he tripped over a pail of bloody piss recently brought to the deck from the saw-bone's own quarters. Falling forward he dropped his heavy ill-shapen iron which fell upon poor Tom what was a fine mouser and killed him. Twas the drunkin' harpooner what was blowing a bloody mist when he got to his feet, covered as he was with the contents of the saw-bone's recently up-ended pail.

Stephen said...

Enough of this swill. Back to Heraldo censorship:

More A-No.1 activist a-holes are posting their garbage comments dissing John Campbell and glorifying their own environmental destructive impact in Humboldt County.

Censored on Heraldo:

All these hypocrites dissing John forget while John was holding Maxxam back, these yahoos were telling all of Humboldt County that only Palco was doing environmental destruction. In terms of real environmental protection, all activists critical of John Campbell are themselves far more environmentally evil in intent because they should have known better and they were told so for almost two solid decades.

All they did was slander the accurate messenger and go on with this same old ruse of attacking the corporation and letting the homesteaders off scott free. Hypocrites and small ugly minds abound in these Prog and enviro circles. Get a real life, people and stop attacking people better than yourselves who do good for the community.

The fact that Herald censors me just shows what low-life activists haunt Heraldo' blog.

Rose, you should do a topic titled, "The Four Jewish Horsemen of the Apocalypse in Humboldt County", Cherney, Miller, Salzman, Hurwitz. Who else has done more damage to Humboldt County community relationships and economic anchor businesses? SoHum's hospital is in Cherney's sights so that will be the next one to be destroyed.

Anonymous said...

Steve "Captain Ahab" Lewis will always externalize his boundless hatred. Like Ahab. Only difference - "enviro-progs" are his Moby Dick. And like Ahab, obsessed. And to the end it will always be a variation of Ahab's externalized hatred. ..."to the last I grapple with thee; from hells heart I stab at thee; for hates sake I spit my last breath at thee."

Oh, how familiar, Stephen.

Anonymous said...

Progressive environmentalists symbolize the evil that Stephen Lewis projects upon them, yet in many ways he is like them. Moby Dick symbolized the evil that Captain Ahab projected upon him, yet they were alike - they were both killers - one killed to survive and one killed for revenge. Jews symbolized evil projected upon them by people who needed a scapegoat to blame for their quality of life, fears, concerns, and insecurities. Hitler used these insecurities in his people and fanned the flame of hatred and then directed it at his perceived enemies. This is similar to what the Republicans are doing in this country with their anti/pro America rhetoric.

Care to comment Stephen? Rose? How many times have the two of you fanned the flames of hatred when it suited your purposes?

Stephen said...

Sure, Judaism instills in Jewish people obsessive-compulsive disorder symtoms in which 6 points form a Jewish Star of paranoia. These are:
Anti-Semitism,
the Holocaust,
Nazis,
Hitler,
Zionism,
Israel.
You can't be Jewish if you aren't obsessed with one or more of these 6 topics. It's called a cult mindset and like most cults, it's a very paranoid mindset that continually sees the non-member as a potential threat to the Cult's existence. This paranoid cult mindset is carried through the generations, never diminishing because Judaism isn't Judaism without its eternal paranoia and war with Gentiles, you know, the majority of human beings.

Religiously inspired paranoia goes away with most every other immigrant ethnic group that comes to America for freedom and freedom of belief, especially, yet I cannot read a mystery or thriller book written by a Jewish author without one or more of these topics playing a significant role in the narrative. It's mental illness but gets a pass because part of the Cult's obsession is re-inventing their Holocaust at every opportunity to guilt trip Americans, many of whom are Native Americans whose own holocausts make the Jewish one pale in comparison because these genocided tribes, unlike Jews, had no reserve culture, even language taken away, nothing left to regenerate their ethnic identities. So many ethnic groups have experienced their own holocausts that for Jews to exploit theirs, to make a business out of theirs, use theirs to blackmail the world into giving another people's land to them, it's beyond sick.

And let us not forget who brought Bush into power to do the bidding of Neo-con advisors, most of whose loyalty was not to this county but a foreign one of their religious brethren.

In miniature to the nation, it is remarkable that in Humboldt County, the four primary instigators of major social upheaval and major economic destruction are all Jewish: Cherney, Miller, Salzman, and Hurwitz. These are the Four Horsemen of the Jewish Apocalypse for Gentile corporate businessmen and their employees, who, btw, you may remember are Humboldt working citizens. Or were..

This information brought to you courtesy of a Christian with Jewish ancestry, the most of which comes from Poland so my ancestors were holocaust victims too but so were my friend Sparky's and also Jack's, and on and on it goes until we all follow Ubuntu and learn forgiveness and reconciliation instead of eye for an eye that has made the world so blind to humanity.

Rose said...

All things else being equal - and all the fun of arguing aside - the WORLD must protect the Jewish people forevermore. The crime which was committed is unforgivable throughout the millennia, and no matter what it means, we must stand and say, NEVER AGAIN will this people EVER be persecuted. EVER. It is a rift in the Universe that will never heal entirely.

Just as surely as we say of slavery, NEVER AGAIN.

Rose said...

NEVER AGAIN.

Anonymous said...

All Palestinians wear explosives. That's why Rose is blind to the plight of Palestinian children who are caught up in deadly circumstances 4 and 5 generations removed from the Jewish Holocaust? NEVER AGAIN. But, Palestinians love their little children, too. Religion. Good verses evil. One becomes the other. Like Ahab and Moby Dick. Evil becomes evil. Jewish Holocaust/Palestinian Holocaust - all the same in the end. You can't see it? You wear the blinders of your culture.

Environmental destruction committed by Corporate Pillager and Jew, Charles Hurwitz. His antagonists: Cherney, Miller, Salzman get the same Jew boy treatment from you, Stephen; a Gnostic Christian and Jewish Holocaust heir. By your own reasoning heir to the "Jewish Star of Paranoia" and a cult mindset, if I understand you.

I'm sort of with you regarding Bush and the Neo-cons.

It is interesting that you are a Gnostic Christian. This Ubuntu thing is new to me. The word is Zulu in it's origin and means humanity - loosely translated. From what I can figure out it is some sort of down-loadable software. A new religion based on the concept that a person is a person only through other people? Well, that sounds like wisdom. Bet it's got Scientology beat. But can it compete with environmentalism as a religion?

It is estimated that atmospheric carbon dioxide will double by 2050 and triple by 2075. No one will want to live here by then - not you or me or Rose - not even the Jews the Palestinians. But, our great grandchildren will have reached a con-census.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe we will all just learn to get along. I'm not really sure what that word con-census is, but it got through spell-check.

Stephen said...

Rose, you unforgiving person you. You have bought into the Jewish line which Pauline Christians are taught in church for 2000 years to follow from the book of Genesis' story of Abraham. What you do not know, what is only now making its way through intellectual circles (again!) is the old Hindu Vedic Brahmin connection to Jews and Judaism.

Now a clear historical trail can be seen wherein the lost-in-translation from their movement from northern India, through Iran to Iraq, to the Egypt/Canaan area, a migrating Brahmin community carrying ancient and mostly forgotten Vedic lore morphs into "Hebrews" and then Jews. The Hindu Vedic god of creation, Brahma, and his wife/consort/sister Sarasvati, the Hindu goddess of wisdom and knowledge, become progenitors of the Hebrew line. This is standard nation identity procedure in ancient times to have gods start the line of kings.

Sarasvati is named after the Sarasvati river like "Hindu" is named after the Hindu river. The main tributary to the old Sarasvati river which dried up and forced the Brahmin evacuation around 2000 BC, is the Ghaggar-Hakra river, which in the Hebrew make-over Genesis story becomes the handmaiden of Sarah, Hagar-combined name of Ghaggar-Hakra. Malik-Sadaksina, a legendary Vedic prince with magical powers in the Vedic stories, becomes Melchizedek, with both "malik" in Sanskrit being the same word as "melech" in Hebrew. On and on go the Sanskrit correspondences showing Hebrew heavy borrowing, e.g. the second planetary ruler of Brahma, Saturn, becomes embedded in Judaism as Sabbath worship. Once the lineage is revealed it erases any spiritual authority of "Abraham". A polytheistic Hindu god disguised as a monotheistic Hebrew man receiving a covenant as a deed for the land of Canaan from a polytheistic Canaanite god, EL, is absurd on the face of it yet the weight of this absurdity in history carries it through to our modern times. Rose believes the Jewish propaganda meant as your standard curse to protect the Jewish land stealing enterprise.

Sorry, Rose, but as a prophesy bearer, Judaism's days as a recognized moral religion are finished. Israel has shown the true racist face of Judaism which goes uncontested because it is a blanket racism that views all humanity that is non-Jewish as inferior to Jewish intelligence and Chosen status position. The longer Gentiles reinforce Jewish racism, seen in the world today as racist aggression and ethic cleansing of Gentile Palestinians, the longer warfare rules the planet. God is sick and tired of the bloodshed in the Holy Land over its ownership due to these ancient religious myths of origin being taken literally by Abrahamic religionists. It's a new world in Christianity today, a post-Abrahamic one which both John the Baptist and Jesus and now myself have warned you was coming.

Stephen said...

"..and do not begin to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father." For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore, every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire."

John the Baptist in Luke 3:8,9.

"They answered and said to Him, 'Abraham is our father'. Jesus said to them, 'If you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this."

Jesus in John 8:39,40

Anonymous said...

Intellectually this history of Abraham is compelling. Yet, I fear that it will make little difference to the average person of faith, or to the leadership in Israel and the U.S.A.. Nor to the weapons manufactures or to the people who work in those factories or in the state legislatures whose states those factories reside, nor to the US Senators that get earmarks put into bills that bring business to their individual states. I would like to see peace break out everywhere upon the revelation of the true history of Abraham. Maybe I lack imagination.

Stephen said...

The seed of the Abrahamic truth has been replanted again in the West, mainly by the efforts of linguistics professor Gene Matlock who has researched this Sanskrit/Vedic connection and taken it all around the world, far too far in my opinion, but the basic Vedic religious movement out of northern India matches the time-frame of the story of Abraham quite well. Now that Hindus are posting on the Internet, I've found more information linking Jews to Brahmin ideologically. Both claiming the same social status as "priests of God" to the rest of the community, except the rest of the community was lost when Brahmins moved West and they had to deal with foreigners with their own religious ideas--so you get a permanent paranoia of former Brahmins lacking their protective caste warriors and their economic support caste, all alone out in the big world where they still believe themselves Special to God.

Jesus gave Jews the opportunity to change and join the rest of humanity as equals but they refused his spiritual leadership and the lack of "christian charity" in Judaism spells its doom for the Zionist enterprise of creating Jewish Israel in place of Gentile Palestine.

Rose said...

How many people are flat out blocked from commenting. I have heard from three.

Stephen said...

Rose, you thread killer you. Here I was waxing profane and you go and ask an on-topic question. Ok. Officially, I am one of the banned on Heraldo's Hideaway because Heraldo can't face Steve Lewis's criticisms, they are so right on Heraldo has only deletion, censorship and banning the troublesome critic to defend the social warfare Heraldo propaganda machine.

Anonymous said...

Social warfare? Are you being intellectually honest with this criticism, Stephen? I mean think about it. Criticism of Heraldo's views are on display in the Heraldo Herald comment section of nearly every one of his posts. Why sometimes criticism of Heraldo posts make up as much as 50 to 70% of comment content. Why Humred is nearly 30 to 50% more disagreeable than you are and at least that much more disagreeable than Rose. Do you think that people with an intellectual frame of mind are going to comment when a thread is consistently over-run by long angry politically inconsistent commentary? Most of us have covered the same ground with you repeatedly and the repetition has made the scenery rather boring. And what is your problem, anyway? Eric Kirk provides a wider range of topics at Sohum Parlance and he has let you comment at will. Sometimes I think that he must use a resuscitator as often as you have tried to suck all of his oxygen. His greatness is your weakness - and our window on your world.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's blog is drying up, a victime of the Heraldos' and Heraldas' hubris AND censorship.

Comments are way down, with dissenting views limited to just a few.

How very progressive of them to stifle opinions other than their own and limit the discussion.

Anonymous said...

Your comments just don't reflect the facts. There were 442 comments left on posts - posted by Heraldo since the 20th - and many more left on previous posts over the past five days. Many more comments to come before this day is over. Those are very respectable numbers considering that it is all about local politics and news.

Anonymous said...

Compare that to about 450 comments on Eric's blog and 96 comments on this blog over the same time period. Why do you suppose the number of comments on the Humboldt Herald and Sohum Parlance blog are running nearly equal numbers?

Anonymous said...

They absolutely DO reflect the facts.

Compare the posts over a similar period of time from the SAME BLOG, that is, Heraldo's blog and you will see that the comments have slowed way down.

The only time Eric got huge numbers of posts was during the reggae wars. Fact.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo has narrowed his range of topics almost exclusively to upcoming local elections and local political issues. Considering that fact, his comment section is robust and on topic. They are very readable. He enjoys very respectable reader traffic that is not reflected in his comment census. Some of the comments at Eric's blog are just provocative, hateful crap. It is not his fault. WordPress would save him time and effort, but I presume there are constraints on his time and I presume that it takes time to get WordPress up and running. Still I take time to read his blog regularly and appreciate the time and thought he dedicates to it. I spend time here and at the Humboldt Herald as often. I favor this blog for commenting because Rose appreciates my comments immensely. Rarely do I not get a response from her. We have become very comfortable with each other. We don't take each other as seriously as we used to. It is the secret of our relationship, eh Rose. We are like an old embattled couple - resigned that we are too old to change easily, but still wary enough of each other not to take the other for granted.

Did you just throw something, Rose?

Stephen said...

You mean did you fart? You old bag of gas trying to sell Heraldo on Rose's blog? Are you insane? Heraldo is Mr. Humboldt County Phony No. I who's only existence is as front for Richard Salzman and Ken Miller's little band of politicos killing Humboldt's economy and taking away citizen's rights wherever they can. Rose's blog is always a breath of fresh air from the meanness of spirit one finds on Heraldo's and Eric's blogs which only spills over here when a Heraldine or Erica posts on Rose's blog.

Anonymous said...

Once again you project your Jew-boy self-hatred upon Humboldt County progressives, Stephen. You are a dedicated hater. An Ahab. Once again you have made Heraldo your Moby Dick.

..."to the last I grapple with thee; from Hell's heart I slap at thee; for hates sake I spit my last breath at thee."

When did you become evil?

Anonymous said...

You can try and spin it any way you want, 10pm, but the fact is that threads on Heraldo's blog used to generate between 50 to 200 comments, whereas now the comments are between 20 and 70 in length.

Hey, it's their blog; but if they want to kill it off, it's too bad. Problem is, that many, including myself enjoyed the free flow of ideas. My posts were definitely not nasty or vindictive in nature -but they often disagreed with the flying Heraldos or their sacred cow Highboldtage Bill.

Have a less ignorant day 10pm.
Adam

mresquan said...

"Heraldo's blog used to generate between 50 to 200 comments, whereas now the comments are between 20 and 70 in length."

Nothing all that enticing to comment on,no offense H,and perhaps the closeness of the upcoming election has put potically vested bloggers onto the streets and into meetings and off of blogs.

Anonymous said...

I will let my comments stand. You are not relating facts. The views held by Highboldtage and Heraldo are not always in sync. Consistently large comment numbers alone do not make a blog worthwhile. The quality of comment content is not unimportant. Creating variations of the blog owner's name is a stunt over-used by morons and does not lend creditability to their argument. WordPress can be set-up to screen elephantine comments that are disguised in the attire of immature jack-asses. Maybe Heraldo will let you post comments after you have experienced some personal growth. In other words - grow up.

Rose said...

It does feel like there is a different heraldo at the helm. Who's out of town?

Anonymous said...

10:04 - so, in other words you are fine with the censorship - gotcha.

Along with some growing up of your own to do, you need to take some reading comprehension my friend. I haven't denigrated the Heraldos or Heraldas, and it is very evident that there is more than one Heraldo/Heralda out there. Certainly the Heraldo's do enough name denigrating themselves - perhaps they should ban themselves?

Thing is, my comprehension challenged friend, is that you make assumption about posts that are blocked that are just not true.

NO namecalling or "Creating variations of the blog owner's name", simply view points that differ from the Heraldos'. Again, you havent seen the posts, as they were blocked, so your assumption, to use your verbage, is moronic.

Have a less ignorant day,
Adam

Anonymous said...

Yes, Adam, I am fine with censorship over at the Humboldt Herold Blog. I'm fine with fences, locked gates, and no trespass signs on private property, too. You may not like it, but squirting tears and getting all snot-faced about it isn't going to change things. I just don't see the problems you describe at Heraldo's blog.

Now go wipe your nose. And change your drawers. I think you have denigrated your undies.

Anonymous said...

No one is out of town, Rose. Just training a third shift and adding a wing to the Humboldt Herold Command Center's Day-Care Facility. I believe Richard Salzman has agreed to oversee third shift at the Command Center upon his return from the very important work he is doing in Ohio.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the admission of your cowardice, 1:08. You can't handle other viewpoints and want those viewpoints censored.

Gotcha. Must be nice to live in a world where the only interaction one has is with those of the same mindset.

baa baa baa

Have a less ignorant day,
Adam

Anonymous said...

Have a less neurotic day, Adam. See that your diaper is changed as needed and soon you will have that painful rash under control. No doubt your attitude will change and your outlook will brighten as you tend to your personal hygiene. Daily, as your health and sanity returns over the coming weeks and months, remember that we are all pulling for you and include you in our daily prayers. Sooner than you realize, with God's helpful attendance, you will be "good as new" once again, able to take your rightful place in the family of man, forsaking forever your old identity of sore-assed gutter-snipe. Remember to thank God for your coming salvation, for He is the Glory and the Light of the World. May He provide you with a corn-cob and some turpentine to speed your recovery - if not your departure. Bless you and be well.

Anonymous said...

We tried to get Ward Churchill to come on board to manage operations at the Humboldt Herold Command Center's new third shift position, but regretfully he is indisposed at this time.

Anonymous said...

It is hilarious that the Heraldo supporter here defends the censorship on Heraldos' blog by ascerting that the censorship is only to keep childish insults and the like from gracing the comments.

How ironic is then that this poster can only resort to the same here? Like a monkey flinging poo. Yet, Rose allows it, and we just step beyond the range. If only Heraldo were so brave.

Have a less ignorant day,
Adam

Anonymous said...

Bravery has it's place, Adam. So does brevity. You should forsake the former and become a student of the later. It will help you organize your thoughts and save time. Just think of the Humboldt Herold as a place to go where important information is discussed. Go to Steve Lewis' blog for salvation. Come to Rose's blog for entertainment and raucous hilarity - bring your own beer if you're 21. Save your bravery for the service of your Country and the defense of your family and friends - without pouting.

Have a fresh diaper day.

mresquan said...

Really Adam,has Heraldo truly does something to prevent you from opening your blog,your own webpage,anything where you can freely express your views?Do you not see some irony where you would refuse to do so yourself,and you rely on other bloggers to express your viewpoints?

Rose said...

Thing is, mresquan, Adam certainly can do that. But 'heraldo' appears to be an open forum where he/she/it/they post their opinions and float out their talking points - and people weigh in.

And if you look, at 'heraldo' or any other blog, as a general rule, the longest comment threads are where people disagree. Or, in 'heraldo's' case, or Eric's or mine, where people thing you're just flat out wrong, they come in and tell you just how wrong you are. Or they ask questions. It IS what makes it interesting

There are other blogs, perfectly good ones, in some cases extraordinarily good ones, where there aren't many comments. Why? Because people feel silly going on to Jennifer Savage's blog when all they can say is "That is beautiful!" or Beachcomber, or Ernie or Ekovox... comments are less because people generally agree and appreciate silently.

At any rate, in looking at the questions that are posed in those 'censored' comments in the post above, what do you see that's objectionable?

There are more - when I get time I'll go back and see if I can pull them up. This has been an ongoing thing. I keep hearing about it, so, since the comments are being given to me - I figured, let's put 'em all in one place.

Maybe he'll get some answers to his questions.

Anonymous said...

Do you have a diaper fetish 438?

I am merely pointing out the blatant hipocrisy on Heraldo's blog.

Deal with it.

Take a deep breath with your face buried in week old shit infested diaper - you seem to be fixated on diapers and poo, perhaps that will help you start your work week out in the right frame of mind.

Anonymous said...

Is that you Adam? Did you forget to step back out of range. Or did your fuse get damp? I do not see the hypocrisy that you refer to. Are all your comments banned? Did you loose control of your bladder at some point on some Heraldo comment thread? Maybe an E-mail exchange with Heraldo will clear things up, if your nice about it, and all will be forgiven. Hey it is worth a try. Cheer up. If you find that you are permanently banned it is not the end of your life or even your worse day.

Have a nice week!
Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

Dear 139,
Your comprehension skills are truly lacking - that's why you don't see the hipocrisy. If say, Rose were censoring comments, Heraldo's blog would be frothing at the mouth over it.

Moreover, I merely point that hipocrisy out - it is not the point of my original post, which is to say that Heraldo is blowing it by limiting comments (and pay attention - this is big, and your comprehension skills are, to be charitable, less than zero) - comments that are reasonable in nature. Comments that invite discussion, even though they disagree with the blog owner(s).

It's too bad, because it was an enjoyable blog.

Back to your diaper now, poo boy.

Anonymous said...

Look, I apologize, Adam. Obviously you feel that you have something of importance to say on the Humboldt Herald blog and that danged old meanie Heraldo is blocking you and it has got you feeling like he isn't sensitive to your wish to be a part of the discussion. Maybe you should be able contribute. After all, compared to Humred, you are a genius. Maybe that is the problem. Heraldo may, after all, feel intimidated by you and your incisive, cut to the chase commentary. Humred is a profane idiot compared to you, and gets away with his potty mouth because he is such a bean brain that Heraldo probably feels sorry that he was born a fool. Sometimes life just ain't fair. Still, I think if you are good - 'cause we all know that you are smart - and send old Heraldo an E-mail describing how important it is to you that you be able to make comments and that you won't be a jerk and pick fights with Bill and not say nasty things about him over there, or behind his back over here, Heraldo just might take pity on you and grant you a period of grace. But you must be contrite. If Heraldo detects any sign of insincerity in your request he will probably laugh in your face. Go now. Do as I say. Take your hat in your hand and make your humble request.

Good luck!
Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

How's that padded room, dread?

Someone got too close to who heraldo is, asked questions heraldo doesn't want to answer. Scared him.

Rose said...

send old Heraldo an E-mail describing how important it is to you that you be able to make comments

What good would it do to send an email, Dreadful Anonymous?

That does sound crazy.

If heraldo has something to say , why not just say it?

Anonymous said...

That is your take, is it? Well, there has been much discussion on the subject. Why don't you make it your personal Manhattan Project since you are so close. You could be a hero, Mr. big foot hunter.

Anonymous said...

Wait a minute, Rose, You make no sense. Heraldo is laughing his ass off. Adam is the one being censored. Adam doesn't want to be censored. It is Adam's problem not Heraldo's.

Stephen said...

Speaking of making no sense, brain addled defenders of Heraldo on Rose's blog are just leaving a trail of slug slime in their comments. Nothing at all in them but utterly stupid comments trying desperately to save Heraldo's "face"..you know, the one with the Halloween mask on hiding a hideously obscene Pinocchio profile 24/7/365, the real reason "Heraldo" hides away..it's so disgusting to see Heraldo's nose grow and diminish while conversing with others in direct proportion to the amount of negative air he generates attacking others.

Stephen said...

See? How it's done. Negative put-downs resulting in intellectually wasted space instead of offering anything helpful. Blogs..such a blessing to world peace..

Anonymous said...

Arrrgh! I see yer gold coin is still nailed to the mast, Captain Ahab. So the great liberal whale has confounded yer hunt. Aye, yer great frustration is measured by the copious amount of rum ye swill to stoke the fire of yer unrequited hatred fer the beast that stole yer sanity. Aye, yer great oath still echoes to and fro across the sea like a great tidal wave that indiscriminately destroys all innocent liberal lives that live upon the land - wiped out by the millions like Jews in the Holocaust fer which you deny. Like a quake yer oath still rumbles. Listen! do ye still hear it? There! "To the last I grapple with thee; from Hell's heart I slap at thee; for hates sake I spit my last breath at thee." Tis an evil wind ye have blown, Captain. Yet the great liberal whale evades thee - and yer diapered crew has run low on Pampers. Turn about! Ye have entered shark infested waters and the weather has turned cold. Turn about fer the sake of yer crew.

Stephen said...

Joke's long over, Moby' freed his willy and now you're just posting blather. Get a life.

Anonymous said...

Thar you Blow! But, your Moby Dick resides in the warmer climate of the Humboldt Herald blog. Surrounded by dangerous reefs that have scuttled many a liberal whaling ship and scoured many more diapers off countless snot-nosed, tear squirting crewmen. Yet ye still hunt with the insane intensity of a madman. Recant your evil curse and repose in the arms of your gnostic God. Turn about! Before another crew is lost upon the shoals of the Humboldt Herald blog at the whim of their mindless Captain Stephen Ahab. Have ye completely lost yer soul to insanity? Have ye no concern for the safety of yer diapered crew? Will no amount of reason scale the gunwales of yer rum soaked mind? Or have you entered Hell's heart to reside their for eternity? Aye Captain, will you and yer crew be lost forever? 'Twould be a shame, for ye and yer crew have provided me with many a pleasant pass time. 'Twould be a shame if the gold coin nailed to yer ships mast were to end up in Davy Jones own locker. I had hoped to claim it for myself. Arrgh!

Anonymous said...

Not too much of a "great liberal whale has confounded yer hunt."
With censored comments.

Anonymous said...

Aye, the shoals that surround the Humboldt Herald blog have scuttled many a fine whaling ship what has set sail in search of the great liberal whale. Yet many have navigated those waters in safety. Those that whale about the Humboldt Herald comment threads dying on the vine expose themselves and their hidden motives and paint a big target on the hull of their ships. Oh, the cries of terror haunt my sleepless nights as each ship is hulled and another crew is lost. And the flotsam of dirtied diapers haunt my fretful dreams as does the loss of Ahab's gold coin, nailed to the mast soon to be residing at the bottom of the deep blue sea.

Have you had enough, Captain? What sign would you offer! Yer Gold coin mayhap? Or will you give me an Aye? Say Aye! Say it loud and clear. Empty yer lungs now. From Hell's heart shout out a lusty aye! I will take it as yer sign and leave you alone fer a little while.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

No no, Keep it up, R.Trent Dreadful, it's entertaining.

Keep up the obfuscation, nothing to see here, move along now.

Anonymous said...

And where are these many censored Humboldt Herald comments we was promised? Ye have lit yer fuse but yer powder got wet, must be. Saltwater tears have thwarted yer intent, no doubt. Ye have practiced obliquity and deviated from from yer chosen path and changed the natural plane that existed between the earth's equater and the orbit of your hunt for the great liberal whale. Now ye have become lost and have let fear cloud yer judgement and have at last, once again, obfuscated in yer own diaper. It is too late for you to turn back. You are lost. Yer supply of Pampers have run low and you have lost all hope. Ye have eaten all the rats on yer ship and now you chew creosote. Yer as unlikely a crew as ever was. Pity on thee. May the good Lord collect yer misguided souls in the end. Thee poor sufferin' fools.

Dreadful Anonymous

Rose said...

That's positively Dreadful. You chose an apt pseudonym. Hope you're not turnin' that in to your creative writing prof.

Anyways - why is this of such great concern to you? Seems like you're takin' this awfully - dreadfully - personally.

It's very funny, really. Why do you care if someone posts the comments that were censored on one blog on another blog?

Better yet - WHY were those particular comments censored. And don't tell me it is because of Bill - he rocks and rolls in the discussions every day, takes his punches, and the occasional accolade, and stands his ground quite well.

Anonymous said...

Read above, RTrentDreadful - there are several of the censored comments above.

Keep it up, you've got us convinced, nothing to see here, move along folks.

Anonymous said...

Aye, why indeed. Was yer comments censored one by one or was it the commenters what has been censored one by one. Honestly, I can't say for sure. It is possible, as I see it, the situation bein' what it argh, one of lost whalers on the open sea and fer no good reason - maybe they was postin' their comments on the wrong thread. Not havin' any natural sense of direction - which is a standout fact when you read their testimonials and protestations between all their snivelin' and tear squirtin'. Aye, would they know their up from their down if shit suddenly begain to fall upwards? Why indeed were those comments deleted. Aye, come to think about it I think I may have just uncovered a universal truth - shit always rolls down hill. Aye, It's not smart to insult the cook is another. Don't point a gun at a cop is another. That's my warrant. This may not turn out to be one of those confounding questions for the ages.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

Actually RTrentDreadful, your last post, while not one of those "confounding" questions for the ages, will certainly find itself nestled snugly with those that are amongst the most confusing.

Keep trying though, matey. Move along, nothing here to see, the comments on Heraldo's blog are OFF.THE.CHARTS.

Anonymous said...

Confounded and confused is your general state of mind - if that be you, Adam. You are not Rose's ken, are you? You are barking up the wrong tree and better let R. Trent be. If Adam is yer ken, Rose, please accept my apology, er, I mean to say condolence, er... Home schooled, is he?

Rose said...

'Ken?' You mean 'kin?'

Neither. But do you even know the difference?

Anonymous said...

Ken/kin, dispersions/aspersions, whale/wail. You have brought two out of three word mis-usage/mis-spellings to my attention and I am a better person for it. Thank you Rose. You may continue to correct my spelling.

So does this mean that you are not Adam's Susie/Susy/Suzy/Suzie?

Rose said...

Are you on something?

Anonymous said...

Gosh no, Miss Rose. But, I sure wish Stephen would come back and play. At least he give me material to work with. He has an excellent sense humor. I could truly love the guy if he wasn't such a monomaniacal jerk. Still, I like him, mostly. You are a lot like him, Rose. Monomania without the humor, though.

Hey do you know that Heraldo has censored several of my comments. Yup, its true. But, it is no big thing. You censored me once yourself. Go figger.

Anonymous said...

Keep it up, scallywag, it's truly entertaining.

Nothing to see here, like opinions only over at Heraldo's - no problem, because, ya know, we're on the side of truthiness and goodness and all that is right - any other viewpoint therefore must be wrong, and therefore not allowed.

Move along now...

Anonymous said...

Adam is that you? Didn't you E-mail Heraldo and get everything straightened out? You aren't planning to be gloomy for the rest of your life are you? Come on! Get up! Be Happy! Put on a smiley face!

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's censorship machine has fired up once more, in this case to protect the anony-identity of "Emerald Hexagon" who is one of Loco Solutions' stable of haters. She's also the lawyer on the losing side of the PALCO protesting suit.

"I think 5:29 is right.

Emerald Hexagon is not Verbena.

Emerald Hexagon is Verbena’s lawyer, Tracy D. Herrin.

The same Tracy D. Herrin who used to be in a relationship with one Stephen T. Davies.

Enough said."

Anonymous said...

You know, it seems to me, there are different ways to censor someone on a comment thread. Stephen often laments that he is relentlessly attacked when he posts under his own name. He never makes the connection between the attacks he has made and why he is being attacked. Sometimes its funny and sometimes it becomes humorless and down right ugly. You have experienced this yourself, Rose. We all have at one time or another. Even EcoVox unsheathed his termite stick in anger at the Humboldt Herald over some meddlesome newbie post about local history that he found disagreeable. Some blogs become mired in angry and stupid comments. It drives a lot of people away. Political blogs may attract more of that kind of attention than others. Especially if it is a blog with a reputation for espousing liberal points of view. I remember the Humboldt Herald when it was in its infancy. Every right leaning idiot with a computer slashed and burned on almost every comment thread over some pretty hot issues. It was disheartening to read. The Humboldt Herald of today is a vastly superior product compared to what it was then. Censorship has played an important role on comment threads when conflict degenerated into name calling and baseless accusations. Heraldo uses comment moderation. He does not have to babysit 24/7. And yes, My comments have been censored. Who'd a thunk it possible?

Dreadful Anonymous

Rose said...

Which thread is it, 9:27? Do you know how to make a link?
< a href="whatever.com" >link< /a > but with no spaces between the angle brackets and the rest of the code....

As for our MobyDreadful - you're only convincing me that this is actually a good idea, having this thread. It is amazing the amount of traffic coming to this one thread, too. Seems alot of people are interested in this.

Anonymous said...

Oh Rose, don't give me all the credit. You thought this was a good idea from the start. You and Stephen Lewis have always been morbidly infatuated with the Humboldt Herald. The two of you have been golden showering the Herald with your awesome praise forever. It's just penis envy. You two will never get over it. Thou shalt not covet the great liberal beast, eh Stephen? The two of you just aren't content unless you are making an ass of yourselves and signing your names. God loves a public spectacle. Whirl you dervishes! Whirl!

Anonymous said...

If you don't convince Captain Stephen Ahab and his diapered crew to come back soon, your traffic on this thread may dwindle pretty quick. I can't spin this sea faring yarn without material to work with, Rose. Unless you want to stand in as Captain Rose Ahab. You could experience travel and adventure and never leave your seat in front of your computer screen. You may drown in the end, but not before I make you a heroine of many dangerous hair-raising adventures. You may go days and days without good food to eat and experience frightening storms on the high sea, but you will never lack for rum. I will fill the holds with Pampers for your diapered crewmen. Or if you are old fashioned, I can rig your ship with an old fashioned Maytag ringer clothes washing machine and cotton diapers and plenty of clothes line to hang from the rigging. Think about it. The traffic on this thread may depend on the decision you make.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

The location of Heraldo's latest censorship

Anonymous said...

Anti-Heraldo readers like you might be interested in this lead Rose, since Local Solution PACs attack dog in this case, "Emerald Hexagon" aka Tracy Herrin, represented Verbena when she was sued by PALCO for terrorizing their HQ in Scotia.

mresquan said...

"Emerald Hexagon is Verbena’s lawyer, Tracy D. Herrin."

Why does the blogger with this I.P. who posted this always so fervent to try to out others,while hiding behind the anonymous curtain?

Anonymous said...

Another censored comment from Heraldo's blog, same location:

"So let's get this straight, Buster: Stephen Davies never worked for PLF, never took money from PLF, never donated to PLF, never sat on the Board of PLF, and never worked for anyone or took money from anyone or donated to anyone on the Board of PLF.

And this makes Stephen Davies responsible for all the actions of PLF over the last 30 years, even though Stephen's only been a lawyer since 1998?

Only in the Loco-Solutions blinded world of Heraldo does this make any sense.

Why don't you ask Kaitlin who's paying DUHCs bills through donations to their shell company, CCCD INCORPORATED. Ah, but scrutiny only applies to the chosen targets of the fake left, right?"

Anonymous said...

Now Mark is tracking the IP of bloggers on both Heraldo and WatchPaul?

Tell us mresquan, why is it that YOU need a fake name to perform your circus stunts and various feats of sucking-up to Loco Solutions?

And why do you feel the need to threaten other bloggers with NSA-style spying programs, whether real or imagined on your part?

Mark Konkler is a perfect example of intolerance on the left. Anybody who differs with him too much is bound to be tracked, traced, labeled and purged, just like his friends in the new, improved (and much smaller) Green Party have put into practice.

Bravo, mresquan, you'll get that job at Kerrigan and Associates yet. You might have to infiltrate and disable one or two more independent candidates first though, just to prove your loyalty to Loco Incorporated.

Rose said...

Well, that's very interesting Mark. I don't know that this is one person with one IP.

Blogger, unlike Wordpress, does not send me the IP attached to the comment. So, if you are privy to that information, I'd like to see it.

(And to the anon, Mark's pseudonym is as good as a name. He stands behind it. And his one who can tell you that using a name is a good way to go, nothing to fear.)

mresquan said...

How do you know that emerald hexagon is Tracy Herrin?And why did you avoid answering my quesion?

mresquan said...

And a little secret I'll let you in on:You can go to my profile to see my name.

Anonymous said...

Sweet Jesus Konkler! You're one of them? Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Hsssssssss.

Anonymous said...

I'm still waiting to find out how Mark Konkler is tracking us all. Maybe he's the COINTELPRO agent his friends keep warning us about.

Anonymous said...

By admitting that he knows the IP address of the censored comment from Heraldo's blog, Mark "mresquan" Konkler has tacitly admitted that he knows who at least one of the Heraldos are. Can't get that IP from blogspot, Mark, but you can certainly pull it from the posts on the wordpress blog operated by the Heraldos.

Glad to know you are ok with the supression of the free flow of ideas. Hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Yup. Fess up Mark, tell us who Heraldo is and I'll gladly tell you who I am.

Anonymous said...

Free flow of ideas ideas? More like the free flow of smut from the sexually repressed. And the basis for their penis envy. No wonder Heraldo censored these posts. Now, with the sweaty stench of anxiety, these post pubescent sexually repressed Rose worshipers have come to cry. Where is Stephen? This is a crowd that is ripe for the picking. Now is the time for you to bring your gnostic prophecy. Jesus Humping Christ! Where is Stephen Lewis?

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

Yeah, we'd much rather have the liberated sexuality from Tracy Herrin, Kaitlin & David, and the rest of the cross-dressing Club Risque crowd.

Maybe that's why Mark Konkler flipped sides so suddenly, they've got some compromising pics on him or something.

Anonymous said...

Well you might have something there. He is the one sane voice among you.

Dreadful Anonymous

mresquan said...

It's true,Krisrtbel has many photos of David,Kaitlin and myself taking turns on her spanking bench!!
And so ya know,never flipped sides in regards to Stephen vs. Kaitlin.I guess we dive back into that discussion if anon desires to.Gotta run back out,I'm sure I'll return to read some fun stuff!!

Anonymous said...

Konkler, so how exactly DO you know the IP addy's of posters to Heraldo's blog. It's a simple question really.


RTrentDreadful, you need to get some new material there, matey; penis talk isn't doing for us here - we would rather have intelligent discourse here. Keep working on it though, you'll get there someday.

Anonymous said...

Penis envy! Peeeeeeeenis enveeeeeee! Adam has PEEEEEEEEENISSSS ENVEEEEEEE! Adam is censored on Heraldo's Humboldt Herald Blog. He can't make his comments there and he can't get laid. Adam isn't sexually liberated, boo hoo, boo hoo. Adam isn't sexually liberated, boo hoo, boo hoo. Adam crapped in his drawers, but he won't admit it. Adam crapped in his drawers, but he won't admit it.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

i am really amazed how mark would resort to threats like these. nobody is slandering him or talking trash about his mama. he threats people just for backing a candidate he doesn't like anymore?

mresquan said...

"Threats?"
What are you talking about?I'd like to see you evidence of any threats I have made.I suspect I will be waiting for awhile.

Anonymous said...

Adam feels threatened by bees buzzing between his ears. He doesn't know how they got there and now he's squirting tears. It must be Mark. Maybe R.Trent. Oh, how very dreadful. But, do please remember...

Vote Obama/Biden.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

LmSao, RTrentdreadful. Thanks for the voting advice, I am voting for Obama, no thanks to you.

Anywhoo, is there somewhere that I can donate to help you learn reading comprehension skills? It makes me sad to to see you in a state of such ignorance.

Try and take a bit of time next time; time to compose something thoughtful and humorous as oppoes to the trite tripe we've begun to expect from you.

Mark Konkler - come on down and answer the question - how do you know the censored poster's i.p. addy?

It doesnt seem like you - although we disagree on much, there is much we agree on. I made the wrong assumption that the aborhance of censorship was one of them.

Anonymous said...

Send $25,000 to the "Humboldt Herald Compassion For Censored Deranged Commenters Fund" to augment the cost of our soup kitchen and we will call it square. Thank you for your fine contribution and thank you for your thoughtful upcoming vote for Obama/Biden.

God bless you!

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

It's not so much censorship as intimidation on mresquan's part.

Either way, pretty creepy from such a big "Independent" who says he supports Ralph Nader.

I doubt Nader approves of NSA-style spying on ordinary Americans exercising their free speech rights.

Then again, Mark collected signatures for Measure T, so it's questionable how much he really cares about any constitutional rights for those he doesn't agree with.

Anonymous said...

Got a traffic update on this here thread, Rose? I'm just bustin' my hump tryin' to get yer numbers up as high as I can. It ain't easy since Stephen Lewis cut out of here in such a huff. Adam hasn't got his back into it like he did before either. I ain't complainin' or nuthin' like that - just want to know if we're makin' progress. Let me know if we approach the record for Watch Paul traffic. We will celebrate by postin' it over at Heraldo's blog. We'll shake up that nest of liberal bees and won't they just look stupid? We can do it. Might take a little time - six months - maybe a little longer. By next summer for sure. So how we doin'?

Dreadful Anonymous

mresquan said...

"Either way, pretty creepy from such a big "Independent" who says he supports Ralph Nader"

Registered "R'er" actually.But don't let facts intefere with your conspiracy theories.
Well,I am certainly not the biggest defender of the Constitution,that's for certain,despite my vote for Ron Paul.Yeah,won't likely find me defending a document which once defended that a black person was well,actually 2/3rd's of a person,and a document which defends the notion that a non-person(corporation)has the same rights,and in cases,more rights,than a real person.The Constitution provides a good basis for establishing and representing a republic,but is far too flawed,and does not gaurantee liberty,nor justice for all,and in many cases,it supresses it.

Anonymous said...

How do you know the IP addy of the anon commentator from Heraldo's blog, Mark Konkler???????????????

Anonymous said...

Whorteiculture: The science and art of growing any of a large family of perennial epiphytic monocotyledonous plants that usually have 3-petaled flowers. A recent discovery of previously unidentified subspecies has been found in Humboldt County, California - named the orchid rose. Only one representation is known to exist. It is not epiphytic. It is a parasite found attached to the trunk of the last known representation of great liberal oak also found in Humboldt County. The rose orchid exudes a viscous sap that contains a powerful psycho-hallucinogen. Humans that have touched the rose orchid have fallen into fitful sleep only to re-awaken at intervals with symptoms that include euphoria while hearing voices, followed by agitated prophecy bearing and Holocaust denial. Victims often become combative and are known to project their self-hatred upon casual observers - then falling back into a fitful sleep. The rose orchid is not known to flower.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

How do you know the IP addy of the anon commentator from Heraldo's blog, Mark Konkler???????????????

Anonymous said...

I have looked, but never found one instance where Heraldo has ever made a comment here on your blog, Rose. Do you wonder if he thinks you are by reputation a political pariah. I wonder what he must think about you stalking him? Do you think he has contempt for your parasitic attempts to wrap your putrid self feeding hatred about him. Or do you think he considers you at all. Is he even aware of you when you aren't agitating your paranoia on his comment threads?

Dreadful Anonymous

Rose said...

Is he even a he?

"he" could be you, anonymous.

Nice try, though.

I'm surprised you are so concerned about it.

Anonymous said...

How do you know the IP addy of the anon commentator from Heraldo's blog, Mark Konkler???????????????

Anonymous said...

He could be me. If he were, he would waste few words on you. He wouldn't need more than that. But, you are not surprised about anything. You have stirred my interest in how you operate. I have been observing you for quite a long time. I have always regarded you with a healthy amount of skepticism. I never could quite make myself believe that your vile hatred was a natural extension of so many different kinds of intolerance. You are not the victim of illogical fear. You are it's manipulative master. You are a stoker. You are a mob leader. You fan the flames of hatred in people who have not the brainpower to take control of their own emotions. That is what this thread is all about. Most people I know have you pegged much lower for intelligence. You are no genius. But, you are smarter than you look.

Dreadful Anonymous

mresquan said...

The game is over.I give up.I will let the cat out of the bag by finally letting all know that I am heraldo.It's been a fun game,but I couldn't hold it in any longer.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe you Mark.

You are smart enough but too nice to be Heraldo.

Rose said...

:) LOL, good one, Mark.

heraldo will know the IPs that come in with the comments because he/she/it/they has a wordpress blog, and the comments come in with the comments and whatever email address you type in attached.

That's not the case in blogger.

Anonymous said...

Come on now DreadfulMORON, reading COMPREHENSION,reading COPREHENSION - it's simply a must, dear fellow.

I have not asked who Heraldo is, I am merely asking how Mark knows the poster's ip address. It's a reasonable question.

mresquan said...

Whne did I write that I know the poster's I.P. address?

Anonymous said...

Censored comment #20 from Heraldo's thought-free zone:

"Richard Marks over at Samoa Softball said it best: Democrats look set to be swept out of nearly every local office on the ballot in Humboldt County this November.

And as I explained to him, he and his other Central Committee members have only themselves to blame in failing to support mainstream Democrats like Stephen Davies and Buzz Webb.

For Heraldo to continue this ridiculous charge of calling Davies a lunatic says a lot more about how afraid Local Solutions PAC is of losing one of their self-appointed leaders and poster children."

mresquan said...

"For Heraldo to continue this ridiculous charge of calling Davies a lunatic says a lot more about how afraid Local Solutions PAC is of losing one of their self-appointed leaders and poster children."

Which one did they lose.I'd say that Local Solutions did quite well on Tuesday.

Rose said...

Well, this is weird - now MY comments are awaiting moderation at heraldo - On the attack on Geist thread - I said:

This is absurd for several reasons - 1.) this is the cop haters blog suddenly in love with cops and getting their candidates endorsed by the cops - now using the cops to attack a person who has been nothing but supportive.

I don't believe this is happening because they asked for a 50% raise and got a 20% raise (made up numbers) - there's something else going on here - and heraldo is using this to set up the meme or narrative -

Such as throwing out the 'she only cares about her special projects' captcha -

Let's look at the facts - since there are reporters reading here - Jill's 'special projects' have been primary resource issues, Saving the Mad River Hatchery and Mad River Bluff repair project (for which she secured funding within a couple of weeks of the storm damage, it took the residents a good deal longer to reach agreement to sign the customary indemnity clause - but yes, she saved Ken Miller's house) in addition to millions in infrastructure (road) improvements in the Fifth District.

She doesn't run around announcing everything she does, and doesn't expect any thanks - this sort of nasty attack is completely unwarranted.


AND THAT, caused THIS:
Rose Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
November 6, 2008 at 4:58 pm
How many millworkers and timber workers would love to have their jobs back, Ken? yeah. That drug part would put a real damper on things.

What you have here is the people who have cost this county millions upon millions and have caused the shut down of industry targeting the one official who won’t do what they want.

Feeling really cocky now that you have Higgins in, Lovelace in, Clendenen in, and Humboldt Watershed Council on the Water Board - almost complete control, so this assassination begins.

Anonymous said...

I won't make comments beyond your mis-categorizing Heraldo's blog as cop hating. If the rest of what you had to say had any merit you wouldn't have had to drag it through that pile of shit on your way in.

Dreadful Anonymous

Anonymous said...

Oh now what? Are you going to repost everything that goes through Heraldo's super hi-tech automated comment moderator? I guess it must have an "Oh, its only Rose" setting that delays every one of your comments by 15 minutes. Sort of like a cooling off period. Geeze! What will they think of next!

Dred

Anonymous said...

dred - you are boring us. get a life.

Anonymous said...

You and who else?

Anonymous said...

I live two lives. I'm not bored.


dred

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's censorship strikes again! Here's something he/she didn't want to hear about Measure T:

"Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap's blame shifting at the Supervisors is simply atrocious, and indicitave of the fact that none of them are dumb enough to have supported Measure T in the first place. Democracy Unlimited never came up with their "free lawyer" to defend the "carefully crafted" Measure T, instead raising money off of the challenge for David and Kaitlin's mortage, and not to cover the taxpayer's bill on this.

Only if this decision had come out two weeks earlier, things might not have turned out so well for Kaitlin on election night. At least her plans to run for Jeff Leonard's Council seat in 2010 are toast now."

mresquan said...

Um....Umm...your comment is there,been up since you posted it.Nice try though.

Anonymous said...

mresquan=shameless pimp for heraldo

Rose said...

There's a discussion about anonymous posters, pros and cons on "The Herald" right now -
06em saidThere are lots of jobs (especially in a small town with such divergent viewpoints) that would be in jeopardy if the owner/boss/manager knew that a comment was by an employee.
and Why you sometimes have to remain somewhat anonymous Said… I know for certain some of the people who post the most insightful comments on the blogs are in positions where being identified would be possibly harmful to them (public servant, business owner, civic leader, and so on).

And this is given as a reason for allowing anonymity - even for “heraldo” to maintain his/her/its/their anonymity.

YET - “Heraldo,” you had no compunction about outing “HumRed.” Apparently he gave his name/email address when signing in.

If you are going to do that, you should out “Jane” “Not a Native” and all the others.

If it isn’t going to be a fair playing filed on YOUR end, you should require names, email addresses and the full monte.
***

My opinion - (for the record, it wasn't censored, nor has "heraldo" censored any of my comments. I should add that there have been times that "he" has censored comments where I felt that the right decision was made. It's not always a bad thing.)

Seems to be a big topic right now, though, Eric is switching his blog to Wordpress so as to allow censorship (or monitoring).

It's worth noting that Wordpress allows for more complete identification of those who post comments, comments come in with the IP and provided email address attached, and provides for banning selected IP addresses.

It will be interesting to see how the move affects the discussion.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo censors comment #22 now. You can tell from the last post on the old blogspot SoHum Parlance that he's taking Rose's exposure of his bullshit personally now.

"Humboldt County is only considered "over-retailed" by government bureaucrats and their apologists using their cooked-books official statistics. The underground economy is what's keeping many of the more interesting businesses afloat, and it's not going anywhere."

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How incredibly lame to see Eric go down the censorship path of Heraldo. Haven't you noticed the dip in their traffic once their censorship activities were exposed by Rose over at watchpaul?

You're right Eric, this isn't just about Steve Lewis. It's about purging all dissent from your MSNBC/DNC bullshit view of reality.

Wed Nov 26, 05:12:00 PM

heraldo said...
Haven't you noticed the dip in their traffic once their censorship activities were exposed by Rose over at watchpaul?

Haha. One little shill for Steve Davies went crying to Rose, who posted a list containing comments that are still posted to the Humboldt Herald. Now the election is over and so are the relentless comments from that particular prick.

Wed Nov 26, 07:33:00 PM

Anonymous said...

"Prick" and Heraldo go together so well, after all. That last censored comment had nothing to do with Davies, and Heraldo censored it anyway. How pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's censored comment #23:

"Their condescending attitude is nothing compared to Heraldo's hatred and evident prick-envy against any commenters disagreeing with his ridiculous edicts.

Now that the Eureka Reporter is dead, is it time for the regressive progressives to beat the Times-Standard to death as well for their tendency towards moderation?"

Anonymous said...

Replacement censored comment #23. Now Heraldo is approving some comments and not others (or posting after the fact anonymously on his own blog) in an attempt to deflect attention from his censorship.

"Well we know what we can count on from the Heraldo faction: Occasional slaps at the Times-Standard and Journal for not being quite lockstep-Dem enough, and abuse, scorn, ridicule and attack 100 times worse against anyone foolish enough to want to take their place, whether to their left or right.

Anonymous said...

O B S E S S E D

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's censored comment #24. Still no sign of Davies, so Heraldonymous will have to find a new excuse for his pathetic and brutal hatred:

"If retail is dead, then what are the hateful Heraldo crowd so flustered about? Home Depot will fail and you will have your poisonous smugness justified."

Anonymous said...

You're the one who is O B S E S S E D Heraldo, obsessed with censorship, suppression of all dissent and hatred of any who stand in the Central Committee and/or DUHC's path to total power.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's censorship strikes again. Here's censored comment #25:

"Pretty funny to see a so-called liberal like Heraldo pushing racist poverty-profiling laws like this.

I guess the gang members are to blame for deforestation now. Anything to give these eco-fascists the change to be inhumane against people outside their politically correct cirle.

I can't wait for the ACLU to sue their asses off, they've been batting a high percentage lately when it comes to pissing off the fake left."

Anonymous said...

Good job Rose: The anti-censorship campaign is working, Heraldo is crumbling due to your efforts to expose him!

I call Heraldo out on it in this comment, we'll see if this magically appears later on:

"Fascinating. The comment I posted was being censored, and all that was on this (Heraldo's) page at the end was Heraldo's comment at 4:22 pm followed by Eurekaman.

Then I posted my deleted comment on Rose's blog. Then, a few hours later, my comment mysteriously appears ABOVE the most recent entry.

In other words, Heraldo is covering his tracks instead of taking responsibility for his censorship-happy ways."

Anonymous said...

I am not the 816 anon, censored comment on ag land to subdivisions thread, responding to Heraldo calling me Mr. Observant (should have appeared above yours rose):

"I must have missed the update because I skip to the comments since you screen my remarks for an hour before posting, Mrs. Sanitizer"

Anonymous said...

Heraldo's latest censored comment:

"Yup, it wasn't enough for Heraldo to slander Davies, call him a loony, and make sure Kaitlin had more money. He loses the election, and Heraldo still wants to beat up on him? Ever hear of beating a dead horse? This isn't Rob Arkley, Heraldo, obviously he's poor enough that he can't pay off all his student loans to this date, and this is a reason to hate him, because he's not one of these limousine liberals like you?"

Rose said...

Nah. This one's personal. That's my read.

Rose said...

Davies is one of the people who got screwed by Schectman - Good ol' Steve Schectman, the "pro-bono" lawyer for Paul Gallegos' DA's Office,
Steve Schectman, the Recall shill candidate for DA....

One of the worst of the worst...

Red Says:

Anyone with a sense of humor should read the opinion:

http://w=
ww.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/A119944.PDF


It is the most complete pimp-slap by the 1st app since the Palco decision. My favorite part is the letters Steve Schectman wrote, essentially saying that Davis was working on a bunch of lawsuits but wouldn't get paid until those settled, at some indeterminate point in the future. Brilliant career move. I hope that water Board is not an important position, if this guy and the person who thought Measure T was constitutional are the best you people could do.


Rose Says:
Schectman's is involved in this deal? You're kidding me.

Rose said...

Anonymous Says:
Yeah, Schectman screwed Davies out of his rightful income fighting and winning millions of dollars worth of judgments, and Davies then sued Schectman for his rightful wages beyond the sharecropper income described in that letter in the footnotes of that judgment

In other words, Schectman was an abusive employer, Davies couldn't pay his student loans off with a slave-level sub-minimum wage income, and now Heraldo wants to abuse the poor man for both. Sickening from such a "progressive" hack like Heraldo.


Rose Says:
In connection with his deferment requests, between 1998 or 1999, and 2000, respondents requested, and Davies provided, verification of his income and economic hardship status. Pursuant to this request, Davies's then-employer, attorney Steven A. Schectman (Schectman) drafted letters substantiating Davies's minimum income and employment status.

March 13, 2000    To Whom It May Concern: I am writing this letter at the request of Steven T. Davies, S.S.# ... to provide documentation of his income in connection with his Economic Hardship Deferment Request. Mr. Davies is an attorney at my law practice, Pacific Law, based in Eureka, California. Mr. Davies works exclusively, full-time, 40+ hours for Pacific Law working on several large and complex lawsuits on behalf of some 70 Plaintiffs in and around Eureka, California which my practice is exclusively focused on. Mr. Davies does not have outside employment and his responsibilities to Pacific Law require that Mr. Davies devote himself full-time to the litigation at Pacific Law. Mr. Davies has not received a salary since September, 1998 and will not receive economic compensation for his work until a settlement or court judgment on the cases he is working on, which I anticipate will not occur until August, 2000, approximately. I do, however, provide Mr. Davies with housing and cover his costs for food, some gas, and emergency items. These costs generally run under $200 per month or less. Since September 1999, I do not maintain employment records for Mr. Davies. We are in the process of formalizing a written employment agreement or formalized compensation agreement, but, at present, we have a non-written agreement that his compensation be fair.   Please call me if you have any questions.   Very Truly Yours, Steven A. Schectman

Is Davies one of the Earth Firsters that Schectman got busted for not paying?


Heraldo Says:
winning millions of dollars worth of judgments
You mean settlements.


Anonymous Says:
Exactly Rose. Schectman abused Davies, and thus Heraldo must do so as well. It's the Dem/DUHC/LocoSol/Baykeep/HWC way!

Rose Says:
He (Schectman the shyster) doesn't maintain employment records, but says the guy works exclusively, full-time, 40+ hours for Pacific Law working on several large and complex lawsuits on behalf of some 70 Plaintiffs in and around Eureka?

For FOOD! Worth about $200 a MONTH!?!

He admits this in Court Documents?

You're focused on the wrong guy, 'heraldo."

Rose said...

Heraldo Says:
Sure, rose. Davies had a dispute with Schectman so he must be a saint. Simple little world you live in.

As for "focus," maybe you should watchsteve while you watchpaul.


Rose Says:
70 grow house LLC clients no doubt.

Does Schectman arrange the rent? Buy the seed? Then provide the protection? Because you know HE HAS FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES. Does he pay their moving expenses?

Seriously. You're looking at the wrong guy.


A Pox on Both Says:
I've met both Davies and Schectman, and my impression of both was that they were untrustworthy. Some of my political preferences would align with them, but both struck me as, quite frankly, a couple of self-important
wankers. But I think Davies is probably more of a true believer than Schectman, who seems more of an opportunistic operator. Thus were they fated to take their roles of legal slave and master. Pathetic.


A Pox on Both Says:
Okay, that wasn't very nice. I guess I ought to make it clear that I don't know either one of them very well. And anyway even if they fit the descriptions I gave, they might still be nice enough folks, kind to their friends and family. Maybe I just got a negative first impression. But those first impressions can be hard to shake.

Heraldo Says:
It's the Dem/DUHC/LocoSol/Baykeep/HWC way!

Such a clean little black and white world. The "wrong guy" rhetoric fits right in.


Rose Says:
I'm not sure you can lump HCDCC in with DUHC.

Local Solutions, Healthy Humboldt, Humboldt Watershed Council, yeah, whaddya think, heraldo? they're all under one roof now, eh?


Heraldo Says:
A big hippie commune under "one roof." That must be it.

Different people with similar values and common goals should hate each other, right? That's your message?


Rose Says:
About TLS: TLS is small law firm focusing on environmental law, public trust law, water rights, and property law. Sole proprietor Stephen T. Davies has over ten years experience litigating against The Pacific Lumber Company, and, along with co-counsel William G. Bertain and Steven A. Schectman, he has recovered over six million dollars from PL & Hurwitz on behalf of the victims of the Stafford Landslide and Elk River flooding. Other clients include The North Coast Environmental Center (CEQA issues) and North Coast EarthFirst!. TLS actively cooperates with local grass roots and public interest environmental organizations. Mr. Davies has undergraduate degrees from U.C. Berkeley in anthropology and psychology and a J.D. from New College School of Law (the oldest public interest law school in the U.S.). Mr. Davies is a board member of the Redwood Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Rose Says:
He helped get six million bucks and got no salary. Unreal.

Rose said...

Rose Says
No, heraldo, Demockery Unlimited/that Measure T phony group - Kailin's now some mucky muck in the new and improved Local Solutions - and now Cobb's disciples are in charge of Humboldt Watershed Council and Healthy Humboldt - help me out here, I forget the names.

Now with that must come the grant funding you know the grant funding that is for promoting infill.

Fascinating.


Anonymous Says:
No, Heraldo, hate is YOUR message to Stephen Davies, that he can get screwed over by Steve Schectman out of years of diligent legal work which resulted in successful judgments, and then get screwed over by you in public for not being able to keep up with his student loan payments. Not to mention that he couldn't afford to pay for any campaigning activities in running against your sacred cow on the Water Board.

Summing up Heraldo's attitude in all this, I quote the Dead Kennedys: KILL KILL KILL KILL, KILL THE POOR, KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL THE POOR, KILL KILL KILL KILL THE POOR TONIII - IIII-
IIIGHTTTT!!!


Rose Says:
Eh. In context, Loonybomber, and Knotty Loon are right in there with Jeff Muskrat and Dumpster Muffin. Oughtta be a badge of honor in your circles.

Heraldo Says:
Fascinating.

Little blinking lights would fascinate you, rose. It's not hard.

But what a good round of name calling you got there ate 10:39. The passion really comes through.


Rose Says:
(That 10:42 comment was addressed to heraldo.)

Rose said...

Heraldo Says:
Loonybomber, and Knotty Loon are right in there with Jeff Muskrat and Dumpster Muffin. Oughtta be a badge of honor in your circles.

funny how you pretend to defend people while simultaneously insulting them. You're so complex, rose. Yet you demand your opponents fit into oddly defined "circles."


Anonymous Says:
Heraldo, you confuse me when you say you're for the working man, when by picking on this kid who can't pay his student loans off (after being screwed over by a slimy lawyer friend of Gallegos), you appear anything but. Clarify this, and with a real explanation, not with the kind of smart-ass remarks you throw at Rose (which makes your own motives only appear more suspect).

Heraldo Says:
So Davies is now the son of everyman? And he's a kid?

Rose Says:
Looks like Pinocchio fell in with the Fox. Now has ears and a tail. (And no money to pay his student loans.)

Where'd the millions in settlement dollars go?


Shades of Gray Says:
wow, so David Cobb controls Humboldt Watershed Council? Rose never ceases to amaze me with her ignorance of what hse states so confidently! It's actually quite gratifying how totally off-base she is. It's hard to believe she is Jill's confidente. Jill seems smarter than that.

Rose Says:
Just hope Muskrat is paying attention. If he ever runs for office he will get slimed with his monniker.

Heraldo Says:
"Loonybomber" is bound to get worse reception than "Muskrat."

Rose said...

Anonymous Says:
Student loans aren't exactly zero interest. They are variable, and mine got up to 8% last year. At least the interest is tax-deductible.

Of course Fred's lender didn't want him to pay off the loan; if they don't get to charge interest every month for 10 years, they don't make any money.


Anonymous Says:
Heraldo cares nothing for the dignity of the poor, if it can be used to pummel and punish the inequities present in the lives of others.

Rose Says:
Just looks like it's all under one big happy umbrella now From David Cobb's My Word in the Times Standard - "If you would like more information, or want some help learning how you can help protect your community, contact Jon Zaglin of the Healthy Humboldt Coalition."

And Ahhh, the joys of Google: [DUHC Announce] News & Events - Personnel Changes at Democracy But in a well-timed twist of fate, Jon Zaglin came to Humboldt as an intern for DUHC right as Hannah was getting ready to go. The fit felt right for more than just the internship so within a week Jon agreed to join our Steering Committee.

He was getting room and board? Right? *Call for interns! We have so much going on that we've decided to offer summer and fall internships to students from outside the area who want to learn all about community organizing. We'll offer valuable tools and knowledge to a new community organizer. The internship includes room and board. Know someone who would be interested? Send them our way! And thanks to Maggy and Charlie Herbelin for hosting one of our fall interns. If you would be interested in hosting a DUHC intern for a 3 month stint, please do be in touch.

Our interns are paid a $500 stipend for their three months here so unfortunately ___ will not be able to pay you rent, and he will need to share food with you and your household. We've dug deep and determined that given the last minute circumstance, and the real value that we think ___ will bring to our organization and our community, we can offer his host family $100/month for September, October and November to help pay for food or other costs if this is needed. This was not originally budgeted, and not something we were able to provide to our summer intern host.

Rose said...

Anonymous Says:
Rose, did you get what the "coalition" part of the name "Healthy Humboldt Coalition" means? It's, uh, a group of groups. You may find this shocking, but there are different groups with similar interests around here! But oh it would be so much more in line with your conspiracy theories to think that David Cobb controls all the enviros! very funny stuff.

Rose Says:
Oh, I get the "Coalition" part. Funny how it always come back to a few folks. The same ones, with multiple groups. And the multiple groups endorse each other and call themselves a "growing coalition."

Nah- I've always discounted Cobb as a completely insane um - well, what's a good word? Can't think of one. Completely insane. But he's got quite the tangled little web going. It's getting more interesting.


Anonymous Says:
And Cobb's agenda has neatly matched Heraldo's agenda throughout all this

You hearing this yet, Greg? We're on to you.

Rose said...

Legal Schalor Says:
The Sallie Mae case is about what you need to do to state a claim for relief from student loan lenders who are in breach of contract provisions by, as alleged in this case, placing the loans in default and commencing collection activities in violation of a contract term on the promisory note requiring the decision to be based upon a determination that the borrower has no intent to repay the debt. It holds that in order to state such a claim in a California Court, the Federal Department of Higher Education has to be named as a party because a breach of contract claim requires a determination of the meaning of contract terms promulgated under the provisions of the Higher Education Act. The court acknowledged that the Federal Department of Higher Education does not need to be a party in actions against the enforcement of collection of student loans.

The Schectman case is an employer-emplyee breach of contract suit. Davies is seeking pay for nearly three years full-time work as an attorney on several lawsuits he was hired to work on that reached multi-million dollar settlements in 2001. After the settlement, Schectman fired Davies and his staff of paralegals (some of who yes were earthfirsters! enrolled in a cal bar law office study program to become attorneys without going to law school that schectman operated at his law practice during the periods of litigation against the pacific lumber company) closed his law practice, "Pacific Law." On the day trial was supposed to start, Schectman disqualified the judge, and then filed a motion that Davies had taken too long to get the case to trial. A new visiting judge then ruled that the case should be dismissed because it was not brought to trial in five years since the action was tried. Davies cannot appeal the case until the visiting judge signs the order dismissing the action. At this point, Davies could file a complaint against the judge or file a writ of mandate in the court of appeals to have the case officially dismissed against him so that he can then appeal what he believes was an incorrect determination that the '5-year rule' applies in this case where a final judgment had already been entered against davies in 2001, necessitating one of many early appeals.


Red Says:
I don't live in Humboldt County, but I like to look at (and occasionally comment on) the various local blogs; it is better then a barrel full of sea monkeys. Where else can you get a cast of characters like Schectman, who has apparently settled every lawsuit he ever filed for pennies on the dollar, and Davies, who argued that the letters Schectmen wrote describing his minion's servitude (quoted by Rose above) were a contract between Schectman and the lender to which he (Davies) was a third-party beneficiary? And that's just this thread. If I were practicing up there I would find it difficult to takes Davies seriously as an attorney after reading that decision. Of course I may be biased because I am actually paying my student loans.

Harmony Groves said...

Nick bravo was blocked by Heraldo way back in '04 for questioning my policies and my connections to big media (the Arcata Eye), and the local corrupt bureacracy (ornelas, hauser, etc).

Rose said...

Wow? It goes that far back? Is that you, Nick?

Anonymous said...

comment missing here Anonymous Says:
December 8, 2008 at 11:40 am
I thought it was an oblique reference to Democracy Unlimited and their habit of NEVER holding elections for their own leadership or any of their puppet groups like HCCR, CCP, HumIBA, HGP, etc.

Anonymous Says:
December 8, 2008 at 12:37 pm
Oh, I almost forgot DUHC’s “parent” group California Center for Community Democracy, an organization so democratic, they’ve never held a public meeting! EVER!

Kaitlin takes their “donations” care of the DUHC house, of course. Otherwise, their “offices” consist of a post office box in Gualala.

Anonymous said...

I believe Heraldo is David Cobb and/or Kaitlinn. In a little fishing expedition I referred to Heraldo today as "heraldavidkaitlinn" and it is blocked. I only did that because I heard from a fairly credible source that they are Heraldo. Just thought you'd like to know.

Anonymous said...

I think Heraldo is not Cobb or Kaitlin. I happened to be at a Harbor District meeting and was able to read some quotes and who said them on someone's laptop and those exact things came up in a Heraldo post.

Anonymous said...

Heraldo is Bonnie Neely.

Anonymous said...

Oh - horse shit. Its cobb, belknap et al. Thats why they have to come back again and again on threads that name them. They are obsessed!

Anonymous said...

Heraldo is the elusive Bigfoot. I have video.

Rose said...

on Heraldo re: Eureka City Council
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Anonymous Says:
December 17, 2008 at 11:53 am
To progressives discourage by the election of Frank “I’m a throw-back to the Nancy Flemming era” Jager: Hang on for a couple of more years. Mike Jones and Jeff Leonard are terming out.

We already have two excellent candidates drafted to win those seats who will join Linda and Larry in 2010.

Eureka will have a progressive City Council in 2010.
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Anonymous Says:
December 19, 2008 at 10:14 pm
The entire problem here is the bully tactics of the Dems in forcing all the alternative candidates out of these races. There’s no way Jager would have gotten over 60% of the vote if third and fourth candidates were in that race, but left with Jager or Clark, people got scared of Clark.

That’s why that declaration above is so disturbing, about how “we have already” drafted candidates to replace Leonard and Jones when they term out. Who the fuck is “we” and when do the rest of us get to vote in your shadow primary where only the DUHCs and the DemCentCom get to decide who runs for office around here from the left?
----------------------------

Anonymous said...

On the HumCPR executive director thread there is a reference to rural cleansing, so I posted a link to the origins of the term
http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/articles/ruralcleansing-wsj.htm

and a quote:
" The Greens' Strategy

The strategy of these environmental groups is nearly always the same: to sue or lobby the government into declaring rural areas off-limits to people who live and work there. The tools for doing this include the Endangered Species Act and local preservation laws, most of which are so loosely crafted as to allow a wide leeway in their implementation.

In some cases owners lose their property outright. More often, the environmentalists' goal is to have restrictions placed on the land that either render it unusable or persuade owners to leave of their own accord. "

I guess Heraldo doesn't want that as part of the discussion for some reason.

Anonymous said...

The latest stricken comment from the land of Censoraldo:

"The So-called "Humboldt Independent Business" group REFUSED to include my listing, even though I sent it to them six months ago. Must be because I opposed Measure T."

I do believe I will make it my personal project to see that every local business excluded from this directory refuses to have it in their restaurant, bar or cafe spaces. The DUHCs aren't the only ones who can play the exclusionary game, apparently they need a reminder of this...

Anonymous said...

Attempted Posting 12/27 to "HH Your Local Solution"

Anonymous Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

December 27, 2008 at 5:05 am
Why not save the hassle of figuring out the charts and stuff by just giving all your dough directly to Cobb and Kaitlin. Avoid all the hassle of those shell groups and shams by dropping off cash at the next pancake feed. Besides with cash it all goes to support their lifestyle instead of pesky taxes.

Rose said...

Funny thing. All those charts and all that effort put into Cobb's "Community Currency" - like he's still in grade school and imagining his own brave new world, unable to work in the real one.

Like charts, and knowing how dollars flow hasn't already been figured out and studied ad nauseum. Like there aren't full-fledged college classes in understanding economies... what a game, man.

Does it work here in Humboldt for some particular reason? Aren't the classes at Humboldt up to par? I thojght they had some pretty good ones, with some really decent studies...

Anonymous said...

Another substantive point not fit for Censoraldo's consumption:

"Running a "directory" would seem to imply an actual listing of persons and businesses locally who offer goods and services. Anonymous blogs with no verified owners, much less local ones, hardly meet this description.

I'd rather say the pro-Democracy Unlimited bias of the Censoraldo is well revealed by their listing, while many local blogs run by actual, named human beings who live around here are not -- namely, any local blog critical of DUHC."

Anonymous said...

Rose, we may need a Censored by Eric Kirk section from you.

The cult-brain worship of David Cobb and the DUHCs has spread from Heraldo into SoHum Parlance, and several other posts were deleted today which talk about the fraudulent fundraising associated with the defense of Measure T. Here's the latest comment not to make the grade at "SoHum Gagged" today:

"The Humboldt Green Party used to meet in public in three different parts of the county every month, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to allow the public to attend their meetings without harassment, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to posts its agendas, minutes, resolutions and press releases on its website for all to see, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to have active local chapters performing community improvement projects, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to support police review, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to be represented on the state committee of the Green Party of California, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to invite their members to fill long-empty seats (5 or 6 at present) on their central committee, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to hold one General Assembly a year in Southern Humboldt to allow people like Eric to show up, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to support Green Party members running for Arcata City Council, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to allow for on-line discussion and the airing of different points of view, before David Cobb took it over.

The Humboldt Green Party used to raise its own money and sponsor its own events independently from Democracy Unlimited, before David Cobb took it over.

Hard enough facts for you? Or do the 1,100 plus members of the Humboldt Green Party (27%) who've voted with their feet, right out of the Green Party, since David Cobb took over not factual enough for you?...this is by far the largest and fastest decline of any county Green Party in the state in its ***1992-present history***, so don't feed us this "it's statewide" or "it's national" trends b.s. arguments, they don't work. The Green Party is in some trouble across the country too (and Cobb's "help" to make this happen can also be broached), but nowhere in the entire country has it suffered between 2006 and 2008 like it has in Humboldt County.

David Cobb's rule has been a disaster by these metrics. Registration numbers, transparency measures, accountable democratic procedures, all in marked decline. Cobb's apologists like Konkler and Kirk are simply running out of excuses, hence the extensive censorship on display here today.

Don't worry though, Rose, as the last bastion of free speech in the local blogs, will be getting a full report - so delete away you sad, sad man. Perhaps she'll have to start a "Censored by Eric Kirk" posting to accompany the "Censored by Heraldo" section."

Anonymous said...

Latest censorship from Heraldo:

"Now we all get to find out what a simpering little kiss-ass to Bonnie Neely our good Mr. Lovelace will turn out to be.

It's not going to take four years for real progressives in Arcata to have regrets over throwing Paul Pitino under the bus."

Rose said...

God, I hate that word, "Progressive."

The idea that you would vote for any person just because they said they were a this or a that - or even were a this or a that - is revolting. I would not vote for anyone just because they were Republican, nor just because they were a woman or a black. I would not vote against them for any of those reasons either - and this idea that, by hook or by crook, they want to stack the deck with stooges is disgusting.

Anonymous said...

I despise Mark Lovelace because he's a subservient little troll for the local political machine, little more than a paid lobbyist for special interest goons who think they can tell everybody else how to live. The fact that he's a Democrat is meaningless to me.

Anonymous said...

Censored by SoHum Parlance/Eric Kirk, pt. 2:

"Cool, now we can start a "Censored by Eric Kirk" section over at Rose's blog.

If that's the extent fake liberals like you will go to prop up corruptocrats like Mark Lovelace, then you deserve the shoddy government you get."

Anonymous said...

big fricken deal Says: (About Hobart Galleries being auctioned off):
January 6, 2009 at 7:08 pm
no one cares haven’t for a long time. nuttin but a drunken child molestor who came down with arthritis. serves that bastard right. I knew a 14 year old who “loved” him for 8 years while at the same time the creep was boffing none other than BONNIE NEELY. who the hell cares. He was not an artist - he was a pervert. And as for the boffing… anyone can do that.

Anonymous said...

Voter Says:

January 6, 2009 at 8:58 pm
I think Jimmy and Jill have something in common; they don’t like people to be angry at them. Unfortunately that can get in the way if you are an elected official–you have to be able to hear people even if you disagree with them. There’s no reason to hate or feel hated, it’s just democracy. But once you disagree with Jill, she’ll never acknowledge you again. And Jimmy really hid in his office? I hope he gets over that, now that he absolutely slaughtered the candidate that CPR/HELP/Arkley put up against him.

Anonymous Says:

January 7, 2009 at 9:40 am
Yes, Jimmy hid in his office. I was both embarrased and laughing my backside off at the same time.

Can’t agree with your assessment of Jill though. I have disagreed with her on numerous things and have been pretty vocal about it. We still talk and respect each other.

wow Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.

January 8, 2009 at 3:23 pm
To 9:40: I would like to believe you - and if you are someone that can get through, PLEASE ask her to: Slow down in her speach, and if / when she asks the public a question to LET THEM FINISH before interrupting them to vehemently disagree! I have seen all to often evidence of her shutting people out. She needs to STOP THAT - if she does not like the heat in the kitchen she should go to work in the stables.

Rose said...

Well, I'm not going to be very tolerant of Jill bashing here... so watch your step.

The 'talking fast' thing was noted by a local newspaper, and seems to have stuck, I think you'll find that, as Chair of the Board she was more respectful of people commenting than MOST of the others. You forget that she was once one of those who came to speak before (another) Board, and it was being told to sit down and shut up that hardened her resolve.

You'll also have to admit, that it someone is going down a path, and a bit of information may help them avoid an error, an interruption may be called for.

But if you want to bag on Jill, for any transgression, real or imagined, I will let you AFTER someone holds Gallegos accountable for even ONE thing that he has done.

remember they took office at the same time. She has done an outstanding job. He has done a dismal piss-poor job, and continues to screw up, and gets a pass every single time INCLUDING the Code Enforcement thing. HE is the one who abdicated his responsibility, HE is the one who wasn't doing his job, but when HE went down and mealy mouthed the SoHum group, they sit oddly silent.

HE is the one who has decimated valuable County programs like CAST and SART, HE is the one who has cost countless people their jobs. HE is the one who has lost grants, she is the opposite, and will DRIVE THE APP down to the agency it needs to get to rather than let it be late.

Jill never seeks the limelight, never blows her own horn - the opposite of Chesbro and others - and she works hard and works quietly, and gets things done. With NO recognition.

There are countless examples, and day to day things that you do not know, so don't start it here.

Or, you can keep bagging on her and end up with Pat Higgins in her place, then you'll really see how bad things can be.

Anonymous said...

With the exception of the Arcata-to-Willow-Creek route opening up a couple of years back, Jill has done a piss-POOR job standing up for the needs of our working class, poor, senior and disabled communities as far as improving our local public transportation system goes.

Granted, Neely, Woolley, Smith and Rodoni (both) were equally asleep at the wheel and blindly following the recommendations of their public works guy, but nonetheless, we should expect better from ALL of them.

Anonymous said...

This is likely to be omitted from Heraldo (Sunday, 1/18/09 at 9:41 a.m.): There is a wonderful submittal about King Philip Crandall of County Employ who is running a large department into the ground. There are a few responses that called forth the writer's courage to the fore, to which we responded:

"OPEN YOUR EYES" : Thanks to the person who had the tenacity to tell the truth; those of you that say he or she has an axe to grind are of the group that is getting the most benefit from working under Phil yourselves: lazy fat assed slobs who are happy to feed at the public trough until you retire and get money for the rest of your life from our pockets.

The piece was well thought through and very illuminating. The "bull-mooses", "moviedads" and the like are illustrations of pathetic mindless twits. We hope this person finds the courage to step up in the press with identification known; he or she would find tons of support in a community that is tired of the fifedoms of the likes of Phil, Bonnie and Kirk Girard and would like to see public money actually go for public health and safety matters - NOT IN PHIL, BONNIE OR KIRK's little hands -

Little hands with sticky fingers have little wits behind them.

Stephen said...

Recent Heraldo deletions of my comments: For Eric's deletions, go to my Steve Lewis blog.

Heraldo deletions:

# Still Steve--and still posting Says:
January 20, 2009 at 7:18 pm

Hey, Mr. Nice, why do you not nice with the censorship? You another intellectual cowardly Heraldo gang member too? Have to use censorship to “answer” criticism? That’s called “chickenshit”. Did I get my syntax right?

Everyone else not a Heraldo gangster incognito, see censored Heraldo posts on Rose’s blog.
# Still Steve--and still posting Says:
January 20, 2009 at 7:22 pm

There are three prominent Progressive mouthpieces now that censor critics: Heraldo, Hank at NCJ, and Eric. What do they all have in common? Fear of honest debate where they can’t control criticism of their actions. These are our Progressive “leaders”, (choke, gasp) in print and internet dialog. What a sorry bunch of Thought Nazis..

Ed, dear propagandist, you cite PL’s one year of receiving violations while ignoring all the years PL was awarded environmental protection certification. And worst of all, you act the historical propagandist who, like Humboldt Watershed Council members, lied and lied and lied about who was really doing the worst damage to Humboldt rural watersheds, always putting the blame on PL when in ecological fact it was the homestead donors of HWC who were doing the far worse eco-damage as the drying up of the Mattole river demonstrated for all those who truly are environmentalists–which ain’t your Heraldo pols, that’s for sure…

But political propaganda is what Heraldo is all about so you can lie to the public about the past, try to reinvent history by saying one year of bad environmental policy by PL cancels out 18 or so years of environmental award reception but only you pols will believe this crap.

Anonymous said...

Whew! Made it through, snuck in the tunnel, and up through the rathole, didn't get deleted:

I wonder who he/she is are??

ANY Says:
January 29, 2009 at 5:54 pm
KAI_Tli-n Sc-op1111oci ——— be–lk–nap

ANY Says:
January 29, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Dav— C-o—bb

Stephen said...

In response to Heraldo's praise of EPIC, the local environmental protection misinformation, misdirection center.

What’s amazing is that environmentalists give EPIC a pass on environmental protection. EPIC more than any other local environmental organization should be held responsible for misdirecting almost all local environmental protection concerns towards EPIC’s cash cow, Pacific Lumber Co. While EPIC set the example for local PL bashing environmental orgs EPIC’s primary funders were busy destroying endangered fish species spawning grounds all through the homestead subdivisions. Political Correctness guaranteed then and still does that local enviros overlook this glaring hypocrisy that has all but destroyed the Mattole River as spawning grounds or for anything for that matter at the end of the dry season.

Of course this blog, being as it is the MOUTHPIECE of EPIC’s fellow travelers in prostitution of environmental activism, won’t ever cop to this environmental truth. In fact, the hypocrites are so afraid of truth being revealed about EPIC, HWC, BayKeepers, as environmental frauds and greedy lawsuiters, that this post will likely be deleted.

Stephen said...

And of course it was. Why? Because "Heraldo" can't stand facing criticism from uncorrupted environmentalists who are not greedy for public fame and lawsuit fortune as is EPIC, Baykeepers and the defunct HWC..Intellectual midgets form the "Heraldo" crew who are afraid of honest and open debate.

jackline said...

Hi Nice Blog .I think HR understands the importance of other people tracking time--IT, Lawyers, non-exempt employees, but struggles with the idea of employee time attendance.

Anonymous said...

LMsAO, it seems that over at "Jeff Muskrat's" Save the Richardson Grove blog, comments, which according to "Jeff",

are "Comments are free as is our speech..."

are now being censored, uhhm awaiting blog owner approval.

Too funny, as my posts are'nt attacking anyone, just the untruth little Jeffy and his friend Misty are perpetuating.

Stephen said...

This is rich with hypocrisy: "Heraldo" reporting "STEVE HORNER: Hiding his Maxxam past" as if "Heraldo" was ever open about his/their past enviro activist timber war against loggers. Heraldo can't point any fingers of blame at others for hiding their past as Heraldo is the most active disguised entity in Humboldt County.

Anonymous said...

..."Heraldo is the most active disguised entity in Humboldt County"

Right! Now bend over Tonto and thank yer gnostic god that the masked man uses a rubber. Want some Vasoline?

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