Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Our loss, Their Gain.

Worth Dikeman accepts position in El Dorado County

What a loss for Humboldt County.

53 comments:

  1. What a loss to this community. But what the hell, after the election this community doesn't deserve such a good man. Lets sit back and watch the chaos for the next couple of years.

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  2. The voters chose Gallegos, who earns $130,000 a year to basically vacation during a good portion of it over the man who works six days a week and rarely takes a day off. It is definitely El Dorado County's good fortune that the voters here chose the "surfing Da" over the "working Da."

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  3. The voters chose mediocrity over excellence.
    Incompetence over competence.

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  4. Progressive destruction of Humboldt County infrastructure continues on unabated. The basic economy, the community commonwealth, the County government, all under serious attack by Leftist Progressives.

    We will indeed miss you, Worth!

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  5. And Humboldt will suffer from his leaving. Not just his experience and talent as a prosecutor either.

    Worth Dikeman, a career prosecutor with no political ambitions. He falls on his sword and runs for "DA", not for himself but for the DA's Office and the community. In doing so he was libeled, slandered, and trashed by Gallegos and his puppetmasters. What decent person is going to seek public office, DA, knowing the slime machine will be after them?

    Look at Dikeman's opposition; Gallegos .... Mr. Plagiarism ... Mr. not too bright ... Mr. Vacation .... Mr. best buddy with several unsavory people (lawyers, politicians, and others). Then Salzman, remember R. Trent or Wyatt or Sara .... Mr. Sleazy and dishonest ...... Tim Stoen, "the Bowmans", Shectman, Ken Miller, and more ....... What have any of these scumbags done for their community?

    Being from Humboldt County used to be sort of a badge of honor with me, now it's a source of embarassment.

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  6. It's not about "leftist progressives," but rather the ascendancy of incompetence.

    Even Gags' progressive pals admit privately that he's a slacker.

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  7. Slacker? As in lazy piece of shit slacker?

    I agree, but he's much more than just a slacker.

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  8. It is about getting rid of anyone who stands in the way of the agenda Paul was put in place to accomplish. A singleminded focus on getting Palco/Hurwitz at any cost, without any regard for the consequences.

    Gallegos' handlers continue to protect and defend him because, for all his flaws, he is too valuable for them to lose.

    It has cost Richard Salzman his good name and his honor, it has irreparably tarnished his reputation.

    More than the money wasted on Tim Stoen's salary, on the initial Palco case, on the Debi August case, and on the current appeal of the Palco case - more than Gallegos' own salary - It has cost Humboldt County its prosecutorial team. The future costs are untold as more and more criminals are released, programs and people lost, and it has cost Humboldt County its reputation in the legal community.

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  9. Rose; Did Salzman every have honor and a good name? Seriously. Are you saying he was a decent guy before the 2002 election? I don't think a guy his age (over 30) can really change the core peson that he is.

    I agree with you that Gallegos is too important to the anti Palco, anti cop group. They would be lost without his power or position. Gallegos' supporters don't seem to care that the DA has very few qualified deputies and Swartz and Klien are giving away the farm. No one can calculate the costs to victims, cities, and the county. The Humboldt County DA's office's reputation is in the toilet, locally and statewide.

    Time for bed and a few hours sleep. Keep up the good fight Rose.

    HBB

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  10. Gags=SuperSlacker!

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  11. Actually its: Gags=lying and incompetent SuperSlacker.

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  12. I don't know 12:13. When I knew him, I liked him. He didn't say anything about his agenda. In retrospect, and with what I have learned since that time, I have to wonder if his climb up in status here is similar to Andrea Davis, who organized phonebanks for Richard when I knew him, who was "promoted" to a position as Kerrigan's campaign manager, who secured a position with the Wiyots to be involved with the Dioxin cleanup activities on Indian island, and who I refer to as part of "Team Salzman.".

    Because she is another one, like Schectman, with ties to anti-Hurwitz activities. asje

    Maybe her position with the Wiyots will protect them from Baykeepers planned spate of lawsuits.

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  13. Rose, why is Salzman so shitty towards you? What was your big sin?

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  14. HBB

    11/30/2006 12:13 AM WROTE:

    "ose; Did Salzman every have honor and a good name? Seriously. Are you saying he was a decent guy before the 2002 election?"

    Salzman wasn't involved untill the recall. Loc_ Slut_s etal weren't around untill the recall, and that was 2 years later. All of them, RS, LS AEB et al CLAIM they were therein the begining but they weren't in fact they seem, now, to be feeding or trying to feed off local elections, like some kind of harvest that comes around every time WE got to the ballot box.

    Much of that group is at each others necks, but they all try to fill in / recreate a 'back story' for how long they've been involved.

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  15. Salzman was involved before the Recall. he came into Gallegos' initial campaign a few weeks before the March 2002 primary election.

    Gallegos won, and Salzman volunteered to help Jill Geist. He was, primarily, the fund-raiser.

    In January of 2003, both Jill and Paul took office.

    Shortly thereafter, Stoen announced that he was filing the PL lawsuit. And threats of a Recall surfaced.

    That sent Salzman into full battle gear.

    He formed the so-called "Alliance for Ethical Business" in March of 2003. He said there were "five of us" working on it "every day" - he said he "couldn't call these people off" - he was working with a big time PR guy out of El Cerrito.

    He began pumping the Timber Yes, Fraud NO, Fraud is not a victimless crime message. He was very careful to pretend he was not advocating for paul so that he would not trigger any FPPC reporting requirements - and since there was no campaign in play, he was off the hook.

    He raised and spent a lot of money, at one point, before the Recall qualified for the ballot, rumored to be at least $60,000.

    When the Recall qualified for the ballot, he faded the AEB into the background and put forth the Friends of Paul Gallegos, which did, supposedly, compy witht he FPPC regs.

    Interestingly, he later screamed about the Recall committee changing names, but he had done the exact same thing.

    After the Recall, he morphed the AEB into a more homogenous "ourhumboldt.org" and birthed localsolutions, used it as cover, and began the next batch, Behind the Redwood Curtain, Redwood Progressive... and so on.

    All designed, like his phony letter writing campaigns, to look as if there are more of them, as if they have broader support than they do, so as to increase his influence over the media.

    He alternately badgered and cajoled the media, making sure his various messages got out, particularly the "good old boy network" message and the class warfare message, both of which he was then able to use to his advantage in the subsequent elections.

    You are right - local solutions claims to fame were all the same as the AEB - all their posted messages pumped the same anti Palco agenda.

    AS it stands now, only KMUD (and the Times Standard to a lesser degree) still deliver his messages. The others, to their credit, have seen through him. Realized the extent to which they have been lied to.

    In the meantime, the various groups perform their function as fund-raising tools. By having multiple groups that don't appear to be related, he can increase the amount you might tend to give.

    Where does the money go?

    For more: Bigger than you can possibly imagine

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  16. It is also important to realize the extent to which they plan to use the DA's office - to SOLICIT, accept and use SPECIAL INTEREST MONEY to privately fund a PUBLIC lawsuit. Salzman's Plan, and Gallegos' attempts to implememt it:
    Salzman's Plan
    Gallegos' Request for Opinion
    Tim Stoen's Letter to the FPPC
    The FPPC Response to Stoen

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  17. Well like I said RS wasn't there at the beginning w/PG - and only came on during the last weeks of the 2002 campaign.

    L/S (et al) weren't even around (created) as yet. As for what the motivation was, now is for all this ... I speculate that RS came to Humboldt a 'salesman' and got some 'strokes' / power from his early work, with other 'new-be' Humboldt transplants.

    And finally what started as a progressive driven (law suit) and ego stroking format, became away to make a buck for those involved in 'paid' positions with in the 'progressive election' business.

    I keep hearing about members of the group falling away, I assume that this is because of a difference in vision. Political vs. monetary hustle and so forth.

    PG had divorced his campaign efforts from RS in his last bid - RS wasn't anywhere around this years campaign. The e-mail crap was over the top, and got RS put aside, because of it.

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  18. The word "progressive" has nothing to do with this.

    The lawsuit is the clumination of a 10-15 year effort to get Palco/Hurwitz. Make no mistake - It is not about "progressive values."

    The "progressives" allowed themsleves to be seduced by Salzman's schemes, such as "Local Solutions," which professed to be born on angst over Bush being elected, and founded on the desire to get "progressive folks" elected. Now THAT was part of Salzman's goal, because they are more likely to vote his way and be malleable, and he needed to stoke the pipeline in order to get the votes he ultimately needs at the Supervisor level. But in reality, "Local Solutions" - for Salzman - was another elaborate fund-raising mechanism, and the money would be intended more for protecting precious Paul than for those poor saps, the "progressives" who believed in the false promises.

    It failed. In part because people are tired of Salzman's hands reaching into their pockets. He can sustain the drive towards his goal, but he cannot draw everyone along with him and keep them in a constant state of agitation, fired up for the "cause."

    So he has to resort to stirring up shit, trying to get people upset, get them mad at Arkley, upset about Home Depot, using all the proper buzzwords designed to fire them up, and fear the demon corporations.

    It is an old tune now.

    The author of the "Death of Right and Wrong" describes them best - malignant narcissists who have hijacked noble ideals to further their agenda.

    And - do not make the mistake of thinking Gallegos "divorced" himself from Salzman. That would be the ultimate in stupidity.

    You can argue that Dennis Huber and Alice Woodworth were innocents who got caught up into this mess, and in that sense you can say the "falling away" of "Local Solutions" was about a difference in vision. But don't ignore the orchestrations of Salzman and Twombly that went into creating that facade. The origins of "Local Solutions" are found in Michael Twombly's My Word, then the concept was pushed at a variety of neighborhood "progressive" get togethers, and heralded on KMUD as the next great thing.

    Long answer. Sorry.

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  19. Worth Dikeman, a career prosecutor with no political ambitions. He falls on his sword and runs for "DA", not for himself but for the DA's Office and the community. In doing so he was libeled, slandered, and trashed by Gallegos and his puppetmasters. What decent person is going to seek public office, DA, knowing the slime machine will be after them?

    Did you really type that with a straight face?

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  20. Rose - the word I heard was that Twombly was forced out of Local Solutions under somewhat intense circumstances. I'm not making anything of it as I don't know the details, but if he was indeed the Machiavellian you suggest, he apparently didn't play his last hand very well.

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  21. Eric - you are such an idiot. Everyone that knows Worth, know that he is not political and only ran to correct a very bad problem over there.

    But, hek...you are in sohum with your dope buddies and could give a shit.

    This is a man who was supported by the entire support staff and most of the attorneys. A man who even the majority of the defense bar supported.

    Seems to me, Bill Bragg and Jim Steinberg were supporters because of his ethics and their knowledge how screwed up that office is.

    I am sure Rose didn't type it with a straight face....probably was crying over the loss to this community of such a fine and honest man. Oh, you wouldn't know about that when you idolize jokers like Denson would you.

    You are truly a pathetic excuse for a lawyer and for a person.

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  22. Go away Eric! You have no idea what you are talking about. You make it up as you go along, just like your hero Gallegos. You should get paid for the PR you do because it is unclear how you do that with a straight face. It's also unclear how you can keep a law office open while you're on the blogs most of the day. Do you really get any work done? I wonder what you're clients think...

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  23. Actually, I didn't type it. Someone else did. But I agree with the sentiment.

    Eric is sadly unable to comprehend the situation. He believes Palco put Worth in the Recall election, and that there was a conspiracy between Worth and Gloria Albin Sheets. That she was put in the race to stir the pot. Nothing could be farther from the truth. When she announced her intent to run, she did not know that Worth had also announced. She contemplated withdrawing, but did not. She had the courage to call a spade a spade, and she roundly criticized Gallegos and the shill, Schectman. It was a hideously grueling process - a full campaign had to take place in a matter of weeks, no time to get your campaign structure together, no time to hone your message, and you were up against the Salzman machine, and a well-funded PR effort, with national reach.

    For all the effort put into keeping Gallegos in office, covering up for his mistakes, even you Eric, should be able to see what is wrong.

    If you can't, you need to take the blindfold off.

    People from the office have tried hard to tell you the facts despite their fears and despite the threat hanging over their heads.

    Your lovely vision of the "courageous" Paul, the "visonary" Paul is based on a false, empty facade, backed by lies and spin.

    I am just disgusted.

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  24. Salzman lies to further the Prog agenda. Salzman gets Leonard Bowman to contribute to Paul Gallegos's campaign. Leonard Bowman up for recall on embezzlement charges by fellow Bear River tribal members. Gallegos lies, plagerizing better writers, Gallegos office fires and loses Humboldt County's best attorneys. Much money lost to County due to Gallegos suit against Palco that was thrown out.

    And eric still thinks there's reason for believing in these jokers have any thing worthy of praise? Tells ya what political blinders does to moral perception.

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  25. You'd think it would sink in sooner or later, Steve.

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  26. I am new to your Blog Rose. Just found it actually. You are my new HERO. What a great job you are doing for our community. I am sending your blog to my entire address book. Keep up the good work!
    D.

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  27. Without going into boring personal details (hence anonymous) I can tell you, as a person who has in fact been asked repeatedly to consider a run for
    DA, no way. Never. I would not subject my family to what Worth's went through. And why should I?
    The majority voted and gets what it deserves. Any
    electorate that chooses Mr. Gallegos over Mr. Dikeman can go hang, for all I care. One has one life to live, why live it for the likes of people voters who are just stupid, and non-voters. And yes, I really mean that. Anyone who voted for Paul after what was in the Eye and the Journal and the public record is, at best, stupid. And those who did not bother to vote are beneath contempt.

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  28. Rose wrote:

    “The author of the "Death of Right and Wrong" describes them best - malignant narcissists who have hijacked noble ideals to further their agenda.”

    Hit the nail on the head there – but as far as that “malignant narcissists” influence, as I said he (Salzman) was distanced from his own people, (Local Solutions et al) during the last Paul election. They (LS) had screwed it up so bad that they almost lost it – by so much fragmentation and isolation from their own base. I’d go to parties and hear how people had come in to HQ to help and turned away, then toward the end, Allison and crew (LS) was whining that the public wasn’t motivated enough. Some one need to explain to these people (LS et al) that if you say your too busy, and are holding a wine glass and court … it sort of blows normal working people away, when their offering to work and donate to your cause.

    In the end – true grass roots Paul supporters (yes there are some, hay call us fools, but that’s what makes a horse race!) finally rallied and got the win. But during the election, the camp was so closed and in love with its self “malignant narcissists” that it kept its own base away. A complaint I’d hear repeated again and again at parties by Paul supporters, “I love Paul, but I can’t stand the people at that campaign office, I’m not even putting up a sign.” (Salzmann wasn’t ever in the office, and was damn near a persona non-grata during that election. He wouldn’t have turned away the people, workers and money that that office staff did.)

    RS’s own people kept him away, I heard more about RS’s foibles from his friends then I ever heard in the media or any where else. I kept being told about the e-mail thing by LS people – I was stunned by the infighting. I think they wanted to feed their own “malignant narcissists” or what ever ‘take over what ever perceived power they invested RS with’ would be my best guess.

    This fragmentation process that almost cost Paul the election, continued and was very evident in the latest Eureka election. Also the heavy work ethic that RS showed (that you mention Rose) in his earlier work, was not evident during this recent election. I found this very interesting, because this Eureka election was RS chance to show the world what he could do. Redeem, clean up his images, instead he basically went down in flames, with a real small lose that could have been averted with the type of elbow grease that he showed (even you mentioned Rose) in pervious elections. I believe what happened was he bought his own “malignant narcissists(ism).”

    I’ll add another concept to your lovely “malignant narcissists” insight ..

    RS began right – working his butt off … you saw it Rose, I saw it, for no money then very little. I believe he believed back then – then your concept of “malignant narcissists” kicked in and well this may also say it better then I can …

    “It wasn’t about the money, at least it didn’t start that way ….”

    The Eagles, “Certain Kind of Fool”

    As far as Paul … I still like him, I see him as an ‘ingénue’ in all this – of sorts. Once he saw the problems with RS – he started distancing himself from him. An attorney friend said it best, “Paul seems to think and act on the reasons we all got into law in the first place, its refreshing to see some one who has kept those ideals in our profession.” Paul will still talk to RS but use as an advisor, hell NO ONE can tell Paul what to do, I just saw him keep shaking his head and saying, “NO” to someone you all post as one of the other great evils in your blog. I thought, “Wow if those who thought this person controlled or had any influence over Paul could be sitting here right now.” The person was pissed that Paul wouldn’t pursue his agenda. I sort of rescued Paul, getting this person off his leg. Those around Paul ALL will tell you he’ll listen to anyone, but has his own mind, and his own ethics. And it gets very frustrating sometimes to them too, its why I like him, and you won’t believe this now, but all these people you think pull Paul’s strings, just don’t. Its silly, I so wish you could be around at moments like these, of course you may even think Paul more NUTZ then you do now, cause ‘he don’t even listen to the people who you think advise him.’ Anyone who’s worked on a Paul campaign will tell you that Paul does it PAUL’S way – period. Yup PG and RS talk, but does Paul act on it? – I don’t think so … Paul’s a frustration that way with anyone who works with him – he has his own mind – its why some of us like him …

    Rose (and others) BTW On the issue of the 'growers in the hills' hackneyed bashing – >

    Were you all here when Farmer & Renner ran for office? Do you remember the hoopla that came with and after them? Do you remember DePollie branding them as the ‘pot candidates’? I remember the rumors (?) of people soliciting for voters in the hills. I also remember a it being a big election issue back then DePollie’s people saying that Farmer or Renner said about the growers in the hills … “As long as they stay up there and don’t bring it into town …” It was on Chan 3 news and everything.

    But then you probably don’t remember when Roger Rodine was first elected, people wanted him recalled because he wanted to tax the people in the hills. Funny how perceptions of people or ‘spin’ changes in time.

    And least we forget – this post was about loosing Dikeman and what a wonderful person he was. So in an attempt to tie all this together, Paul, Richard, Dikeman, growers in the hills and HONEST (chuckle) politicians and who’s a liar and who’s honest, and whom is listening to what influences …

    People forget who said what and backed what when, much like Dikeman having Steve Knight (old head of H-Met / now PC called DEU) who is now the animal control officer for the HSD, spinning Dikeman as PRO-215 ..

    When in fact here’s a quote by Wroth Dikeman himself about it… "Ha!" says Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman. "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say." _California's Separate Peace_ Rolling Stone.

    So to then ‘re-define’ / ‘recreate’ ones self as Pro-p215, wasn’t THAT A BLATANT ATTEMPT at pandering to the Growers by Worth? Why is Worth’s lie OKAY … Go to Worth’s web site = its STILL UP – center add bottom of the page http://www.worthdikeman.org/ Worth posts Steve Knight saying that Worth came up with the 10 plant guidelines, when it was Terry, and Worth FOUGHT it, and had judgments against him in court for going against it.

    Or is it “their spin BAD” our spin “a hero we lost” …

    BTW were you involved in Humboldt politics back then in the, DePollie, Farmer, Rener first term of Roger Rodine days?

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  29. Paul as an ingenue. Not someone who has seen him at "work" (admittedly, not easy to do, Keat is more likely to be in the office than the boss).

    Did the comments of the staff published in the Journal, or the dissection published in the Eye, sound like he's an ingenue? An ingenue might be incompetent, but not all incompetents are ingenues, especially not after 4 years

    Ingenue suggests innocence. There is nothing innocent about PVG. Manipulative, deceptive,
    self-centered, ambitious-- anyone think this sounds like Pippy Longstocking?

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  30. So many things to respond to, 11:10.

    But for starters, I isn't true that salzman wasn't in the office - I got many calls from people who saw him. And he was there getting signatures against the Marina Center during functions such as the kick off.

    And, as a behind-the-scenes advisor, he doesn't need to be in the office to be having an effect.

    As for your belief in Paul's high ideals: One of your mistakes is in thinking that what you SEE Paul say, and what Paul actually does are probably diametrically opposed. He'll say Salzman is out while he is on the cell phone with Salzman on a daily basis. He may resent him, nay not even like him, but he hasn't axed him.

    I suspect you yourself have ideals, and standards, and you believe Paul shares them, you see yourself in the reflective surface of his facade, fooled like so many others.

    I'll get to some of your other points later. Some I agree with, some I can correct for you, and some I just flat out disagree.

    But, see if you can tell me what it is about Paul that evokes a maternalistic desire to protect him, excuse his every misdeed, explain it away and perceive any criticism of him as people being out to get the poor little guy. Men and women. Why "give him another chance" - "Oh he just needs some time..."

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  31. Rose - I have this picture in my mind of you going threw records of Roger R Terry F./Dave R., Bernie D. et al - trying to find out if what I said is true. It is – chuckle – it is .. NONE of this is new – you just got involved with it that’s all …

    Okay now on to your questions or statements and so forth …

    a.) "salzman wasn't in the office" - he WASN'T - I was talking about Paul's election this year - RS wasn't there period - and he wasn't 'behind the scenes' he was totally persona non-grata at that office, and in fact the Loc_ Slut_s people were working to keep him away. As I say THEY defamed him (to me for instance) much more and longer then the media did - in fact the only places I've seen RS made so important is right here.

    What I was saying was that RS HAD another 'chance' to act the "king maker" et al (like you all suggest he is) in the latest EUREKA elections (not Paul's) and he blew it. He bought into the same thing YOUR claiming he could do = "run it from home" (in your case you say "behind-the-scenes-advisor.")

    Now let me be clear again I'm speaking about THIS RECENT CITY COUNCIL ELECTION - NOT Paul's - again RS was NOT allowed - nor his Ideas around that office period! - His own people KEPT him away, making a big thing (bigger then the press did) about the e-mails. I was at that (Paul’s HQ) a lot during the last election and I NEVER saw RS there – expect once when he ran in and saying, “I’m just here to pick up more signs and I’m gone.” – he knew he had blown it – and had to stay away …

    Okay back to the election that just happened (Eureka City Council) During that election he was SUPPOSED (RS) to be working on it - but he'd do that 'advisor' thing - run in and run out - kind of in a showy way - then everything would fall apart.

    IE a campaign NEEDS someone to lead - that / those didn't. They had a group of campaign managers who would all blame each other, couldn't SIMPLY meet volunteers to pick up signs (for instance) in the AM - because they don't wake up that early? (what is that?)

    That sort of thing I'm talking about - that RS - back in say the Re-call would NEVER let happen - money wasted on WRONG printing - the list goes on and on - that IF RS had been there - or ANYONE 1/2 motivated and competent - perhaps the results would have been different.

    RS THINKS he could run it from home (or "Behind-the-scenes" as you put it Rose), but the results (or lack of same) that came out of the Eureka City Council election tend to suggest something else. He’s (in his mind) become too important to be in the trenches with the ‘little people’ – maybe he’s been reading your Blog and bought the line he IS that powerful. Like I say, it sure don’t look it from here – with the numbers that HE got in that last election!

    Sure you may have saw him - he was there - as of the last week, brought his dog et al ... big show - as many people show up for the last week. But for the 2 or 3 months ahead - he was NO WHERE around - expect that 'behind-the-scenes."

    So I have to disagree with you on line "A and B" - ie for RS to have an effect on an election he has to be there IN THE TRENCHES. vs. JUST getting money from donors, and 'behind the scenes' - I was there - I saw the failure coming … several of us did – when we saw who was being ‘courted’ or kept on – and who was doing work – I kept thinking IF RS was here – he wouldn’t let this BS happen – I know how he ran the Re-call, it was TOTALLY different. – he wasn’t allowed in to Paul’s last election – and ‘bought’ the idea that he was so ‘powerful’ that he could sit the Eureka one out. Paul’s squeaked by, with LOTS of last minute help from the grass roots – and the Eureka one never really happened. Like I say, it feels like people were slected upon their lack of ability vs. ability, and if RS was there – this wouldn’t have happened – but he wasn’t until the last few days.

    Again IF RS was there - that wouldn't have been an issue, he spent most of his time being an apologist for the people who weren't there. Which I now suspect was because if they were there he'd be expected to be there too.

    So I disagree - to make "RS" this big bad back room dealer - makes for FUN reading and great adventure story - but the facts suggest that if this was SO then HE would have swung the Eureka election around - vs. failing so miserable and by such a small margin. He just wasn't there, until the last week or so. And abet that he was the usual RS presents, wise cracking and looked for all to see that he was 'there on the job' - but it wasn't until those last few days that he was in that office.

    And that is one reason (no real direction from one source) that the campaign failed so miserably. Everyone could blame everyone else for not doing things, and RS protected everyone who didn't show up or was screwing up.

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    As to "C" Paul's ideals and RS - he's NOT on the phone with RS/PG everyday - because ever time I see Paul, he’s always asking me about stuff that I'd ASSUME he'd know if he was speaking to RS, (or some big deep ‘cartel’ that is always inferred in these blog spots).

    Yes they were and may even be friends, but even RS has said to me, "I wonder when Paul's going to forgive me for that e-mail thing." (Paraphrased) And “Damn is Paul EVER going to get over that e-mail thing?”

    So as to your belief that RS-PG have on going contacts its just not so - or not of the type you alleged. Like I say when ever I run into Paul, he's asking me stuff about things that would be CONMEN KNOWLEDGE if he was speaking with ANY regularity with RS.

    Paul's NOT that sneaky and or smart (no one is) and I'm (for sure) not that dumb. If he 'slipped' I'd know it - or remember it and try as I may - I've never gotten the impression that he's asking me things he already knows about. I know this, because every time he does, I think, 'I though you and RS talk.' And given how ‘loosy goosy’ you all claim Paul is about so much, one would think that he’d blow it at least once – and drop some info that shows he had prior knowledge about something and I just don’t see it.


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    .. Kent State when Nat_ Gaurd shot US down for protesting the war.)

    That sort of thing + he knows nothing of the spray wars - and all that OLD SoHum History - and only heard about it = he's only been here about 10 years or so ... so NOPE couldn't share the same ideals - BUT he's the closet thing we got - and beats the hell out of Worth (for instance) when it comes to ideals -- Worth changes tunes to suit the voters - I lost ANY respect for him when he pulled that "I'm pro-p215 and invented the 10 plant thing" - I mean come on now - it was MEL BROWN - and Worth was chided by the courts for not RESPECTING it even when TERRY FARMER addopted it as a county guideline.

    I know many of the p215 cases seem bouges - but Worth made NO distintion. Terry did, some old person with cancer would get treated diffrently then some kid. But Worth? = No way Everyone was procucted to the limit of the law. How much money did he BLOW on failed p215 cases - where even the JUDGES were telling him to back off?

    Worth couldn't win a case, ever sit on a jury in one of his p125 cases, or any of them? He was so 'hard hitting' that he was plain rude to people, and turned loosing cases into Ad-Hom (personal) attacks. That's what lost him cases. Many who sat on Worth's jurys will tell you that.


    BUT ON TO PAUL’S standers = two incendnts come to mind –


    As I said before – I JUST sat there and watched someone these blogs suggest have some ‘power’ over Paul – sit there and try as they may, couldn’t convince him to act in the way they want him to. As I said above, I was sitting there and when I couldn’t stand to listen to this guys (one of your dark ones = chuckle) plees and see him eating up Paul’s time getting no where, I broke in and gave Paul a way to leave this guy. It was amazing, like I’m thinking “Paul is NOT buying this” – it was like watching some guy hit on some poor lady who’s TRYING to be nice – but really didn’t want to be there – and the guy wouldn’t take no for an answer. As I say Paul wasn’t budging, it would have been sort of funny, and in fact I made an off hand joke about it later, Paul just rolled his eyes, which I took to mean that he hated to go out in public because people like this were always on his back.

    Oh this brings another Paul instance to mind – as why I think he’s got some kind of integrity. I was sitting over in the PINK or the GREEN house (chuckle) over at that end of town .. and some old boy and I were talking about Paul, and he said the weirdest damn thing, knowing I favored Paul,

    “See the problem with Paul is he just won’t stay bought.” – and in “old boy” parlance I can see this person thought what he said was making sense … to me I thought, “Yup and THAT is why I like him – he WON’T stay bought!”

    Another words this old boy and his friends had given money to Paul’s campaign and weren’t able to curry the favors they wanted. Now I KNOW that there have been OTHER DA’s and ADA’s here that are NOT like that – so even though FOR ME – having a PRO-OLD BOY DA isn’t necessarily a BAD thing – and in fact have worked VERY WELL with them – on the other hand comes a time when one has to think of what’s right – and having a DA who is ‘friendly’ to a certain segment of the population is NOT a good idea.

    So on one hand – I hear old boy friends bitching about how “Paul won’t stay bought” – and on the other I see Paul blowing off someone whom I see their name all the time in here as a “Paul string puller” – and for sure Paul was having NONE of the guys BS at that sitting!

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    As to your question as to what "evokes a materialistic desire to protect him" (Paul)

    I'd have to ask you what does he bring out in you that evokes a materialistic desire to attack him?

    Do you see him as 'Peck's Bad Boy" that you project all that into?

    I don't see him that much better or worst then Terry - and maybe a little more honest then Worth.

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    As to your allegations that I’m one of those who say “Why "give him another chance" - "Oh he just needs some time..."

    NO WAY – like I say – from what I’ve seen he’s doing fine. When he has BOTH SIDES of Humboldt PISSED at him – I see him as being consummately FAIR.

    The “old boys” are sitting around the pink or green house saying “he won’t stay bought” and the “new (out to lunch bunch)” is pissed cause they don’t have his ear like YOU’D like to believe they do. Like I say – I’ve seen it – Paul going “Nope I can’t do that” – again and again .. and that person (one of YOUR alleged string pullers) was PISSED – that Paul wouldn’t do what he wanted (and he still hasn’t).

    Gosh you think that Paul MIGHT be his own man? -- just maybe – and might be doing a good job – as good as any who came before (which with indictments of some pervious law enforcement people wouldn’t be hard I admit.)

    As to his office people, I do know that I have to fire people in my business, and everyone tells me that I’m wrong and that the business can’t go on with out them, and we do, and stronger. And NOPE I do NOT tell anyone WHY I do it, that so and so had her/his hand in the till, or that inventory was coming up short, on their shift. I can’t ‘prove’ anything so I don’t say anything, but I know how hard it is to be at the top.

    And though I littlerly LOVED Terry Farmer as a DA I thought it was pretty piss poor and showed little or no class that he didn’t raise a finger to help smooth Paul’s way in. LOTS of people thought that sucked big time!

    Other then that I think Terry is and was a class act, no matter what anyone says. (Also backed him against Paul BTW: Bet that blows your mind – in fact have a “Terry Farmer for DA” Sign in my office “We know who he is – We know where he stands.” And if you don’t think THAT freaks people out (chuckle) especially the ‘new out to lunch bunch’


    At least with Paul and Terry you knew what you were getting, Worth (chuckle) one day he swings one way, the other the next. "Oh I set up the 10 plant guidelines" .

    Reminds me of how the Russians claimed to invent everything. Paul’s the root of all evil – and is backed by these evil minions – like I say its GREAT fantasy but the reality is he’s got people pissed cause he ‘won’t stay bought’ – in fact last time we talked (Paul and I) he was going on about how he felt EVERYONE hated him pretty equal (paraphrased if you will) … But like I say when Terry took over it was the same Hopla from the DePaulie crowd – and for sure when Roger got elected he was up for Recall because of his wanting to Tax MJ .. he brought that up and they just about strung him up – no blogs around at the time … though … it did happen!

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  32. Not materialistic - MATERNALISTIC. Motherly.

    And, sorry. FLAT OUT. He is not doing a good job. Not at any level. Not by any rational standards.

    Both sides are mad at him, sir, because among other things, he got rid of Paul Hagen. The WINNING environmental prosecutor. Gone. Why? He dared to speak out against Gallegos at the HCDCC Coronation.

    Is Paul tired of everyone telling him what to do, so he rolls his eyes? No doubt he is. But my dear man, if he wasn't "bought" he wouldn't have filed the Palco appeal.

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  33. Ah, only in Humboldt County can you drive a Bio-Diesel powered rig, wish for wind and solar power, enjoy recycling, vote against Paul Gallagos and be called a Evil Republican Plant and a Baby Killer Neo-Nazi.

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Salzman is bad for Humboldt County.

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  34. 11:10 and 3:36 1) can't spell and 2)is obviously deliusional OR trying to spin things again away from Gags. Rose is correct. I even saw RS at Gallegos's headquarters, both with Gags there AND ALONE WHEN HE WASN'T ON THE COMPUTER.

    And I know Paul...he is so far from being his own man that it is pathetic. Try actually getting to know him and you will find that he has no character, will lie like a 5 year old, will offer anyone up to save his ass and (most importantly) could give a shit about anyone else....(his wife included.)

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  35. 12/03/06 at 3:36:

    Worth worked under two DAs here in Humboldt County, Terry and Paul, who you claim to admire. As a deputy with a boss, the deputy is subordinate. Worth did not do anything that was not signed off by these two in terms of marijuana prosecution. They both put him on that assignment with medical marijuana guidelines, and he carried out that duty.

    You obviously do not know Worth and have spent no time in getting to know him because, if you do, you would know that he has always favored decriminalization. He felt that way long before he ever ran for office.

    However, if he is given a case load by his boss, he will carry out his instructions to the best of his ability.

    Sadly, many people, like you, choose an unqualified and dishonest person for DA on what they perceived was a big issue, the pot issue. What you lost is somebody who will truly care about victims of violent crimes and make sure the perpetrator is punished. You have lost prosecutors who spent their careers putting child molesters and meth dealers in prison.

    So sad that a person like you who obviously has conviction, and as a child of the 60s who fought for equal rights has handed the keys to the jail to a narcissist who cares nothing of your causes. Worth actually did and does care. You were fooled.

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  36. Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth was so for decrim he'd say in print:

    "Ha!" says Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman. "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."
    Dikeman quoted in Baum, Dan, "California's Separate Peace." Rolling Stone.
    http://www.drugpolicy.org/library%5Cpeace2.cfm


    THEN Worth posts on his web site (http://www.worthdikeman.org/ center bottom) an ad about how PRO p215 he was. From Steve Knight, who goes on to say that Wrorth put together the 10 plant guidelines. Which is another LIE because it was APD Cheif Mel Brown who started them (see: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990873,00.html and also http://www.northcoastjournal.com/071599/cover0715.html for history of the P215 / 10 plant guideline.)

    Also Terry Farmer was on the STATE p215 taskforce NOT Worth - nor was Worth on the Local Humboldt p215 taskforce (the first one cir 97-99)

    Again WHY would this "wonderful honest man" (aka Worth Dikeman) recreate his past with the out and out LIE about how much pro p215 he was on his web site?

    When a simple web check comes up with comments like:

    "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."

    That's pretty much different then the SPIN he and god old Steve Knight put on Worth’s past ...

    We're NOT talking about "what Terry or Paul or what anyone else had him do or say" – Think Worth came up with that line pretty much him self, then to post on his web site how he came up with the 10 plant limit, and was pro p215 is really different then: "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say." When they were asking about 10 plants, and the same protection patients got in the cities.

    BTW – at the time Terry Farmer’s quote on it was, “Well certainly something needs to be done for people, its not American Gothic, people don’t all raise their own food at home in the cities.” So that’s a real basic difference between Worth’s vision and Terry’s as memorialized in quotations.


    I'm pulling Worth's OWN WORDS about it. Sure looks different to me, then what he was spinning.

    But if Worth was Paul it would be different =
    YOUR LIES INFORMATION
    THEIR LIES PROPAGANDA
    is I believe how it goes.

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  37. 1. If Worth was doing something contrary to what Paul or Terry wanted, that would be insubordination, and they could put a stop to that in any number of ways.

    2. Terry looked at every felony file before it ever went to intervention hearing, and he signed off on or changed the offer to represent what HE wanted.

    3. Worth was obviously talking about H&S 11359, cultivation for sale. You might find this hard to believe, but some people actually used 215 cards to try to sell marijuana and actually had no legitimate medical complaint. That's called enforcing the law, which is something a good prosecutor does, regardless of their personal feelings on the law (there are three branches of government, and the prosecutors are not the legislative branch.)

    3. Paul was the boss. Any complaint that appeared in court, and any information that was filed bore his name. As the top of the organization, you are responsible for what goes on. If he did not want to prosecute marijuana cases, he could have said, "I don't want to see any marijuana cases filed." Or, he could have said he didn't want the case to go to trial.

    So either: Gallegos was fine with the cases that were filed/tried OR he didn't know what was going on in his office.

    Either way you slice it, he was in charge.

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  38. Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth was so for decrim he'd say in print:

    "Ha!" says Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman. "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."
    Dikeman quoted in Baum, Dan, "California's Separate Peace." Rolling Stone.
    http://www.drugpolicy.org/library%5Cpeace2.cfm


    THEN Worth posts on his web site (http://www.worthdikeman.org/ center bottom) an ad about how PRO p215 he was. From Steve Knight, who goes on to say that Wrorth put together the 10 plant guidelines. Which is another LIE because it was APD Cheif Mel Brown who started them (see: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990873,00.html and also http://www.northcoastjournal.com/071599/cover0715.html for history of the P215 / 10 plant guideline.)

    Also Terry Farmer was on the STATE p215 taskforce NOT Worth - nor was Worth on the Local Humboldt p215 taskforce (the first one cir 97-99)

    Again WHY would this "wonderful honest man" (aka Worth Dikeman) recreate his past with the out and out LIE about how much pro p215 he was on his web site?

    When a simple web check comes up with comments like:

    "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."

    That's pretty much different then the SPIN he and god old Steve Knight put on Worth’s past ...

    We're NOT talking about "what Terry or Paul or what anyone else had him do or say" – Think Worth came up with that line pretty much him self, then to post on his web site how he came up with the 10 plant limit, and was pro p215 is really different then: "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say." When they were asking about 10 plants, and the same protection patients got in the cities.

    BTW – at the time Terry Farmer’s quote on it was, “Well certainly something needs to be done for people, its not American Gothic, people don’t all raise their own food at home in the cities.” So that’s a real basic difference between Worth’s vision and Terry’s as memorialized in quotations.


    I'm pulling Worth's OWN WORDS about it. Sure looks different to me, then what he was spinning. ..

    PLEASE TELL ME how you can say this man WORTH DIKEMAN is NOT LYING when he posts on his web site an ad that reads, “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”

    This is A TOTAL LIE – Mel Brown (APD) was the first person to have LEO’s leave 10 plants behind. (see citations above) then Terry Farmer adopted it for the county (again see citations above).

    Worth did NOT do this, he had nothing to do with it – he wasn’t part ot the Task force, he had NOTHING to do with setting up the Arcata ordnance, so PLEASE TELL ME how he can put this on his web site – and you can tell me he’s NOT lying?

    If Paul (or as you all call him Gag) did this – you’d be screaming bloody murder, why aren’t you screaming about this when WORTH DIKEMAN puts an out and out LIE on his web site?


    Simple because it doesn’t support your Groups Fantasy that “Paul is bad – and everyone who left his office is lily white and wonderful.”


    So how great a “loss” the ‘theme of these posts” is it to have someone who makes claims on their web site that are a lie? How come if Paul did it – you’d have it down chapter and verse yet here you find a need to figure out some justification for what Worth did or meant?

    Paul didn’t make him put the LIE on Worth’s web site – neither did Terry – so who did it? WORTH DIKEMAN – period – buck stops here …

    To alow a claim that Worth came up with or suggested or was the FRIST LEO to suggest the 10 plant guideline … is just BS – what ever Worth’s views on MJ/MMJ are or are not – the fact is he has posted on his web site something he knows to be a lie. How come that’s okay?

    And nope it wasn’t Paul or Terry who made him do this – it was his own doing .. chose to mislead and recreate the past. Again MEL BROWN was the first LEO who suggested the 10 plants, and Terry was who made it official. Worth NEVER accepted it, and would fight anyone (including HIV patients with less plants) and drag them though courts. Also a MS patient who only had less then 10 was so poorly treated by Worth that the Judge in the case told Worth that if he kept bring in sick people to his court, that Worth would be held in contempt. This was cir 2000. Sure doesn’t seem like Worth was a leader in telling LEO’s to leave them behind then!

    As far as Worth / the DA’s office in general and P215 under Paul: Paul has asked p215 groups – including the Humboldt Board of Sups. MMJ TF that if someone is busted, that they call him, if they feel their p215 rights were being trampled, because (and here is the interesting part, which addresses that “Paul reviews all the cases”) BECAUSE he is NOT shown (for some reason) all the p215 cases that come in.

    Again Paul was NOT made privy to all the p215 cases that come in that office, while Dikeman was Green Dope prosecutor. Gosh I wonder why? I’ll call Terry and find out if he was, some time this holiday’s season and get back to you on that.

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  39. Hey Mr. Anonymous SALZMAN, SHUT UP!

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  40. Richard must be bored....thank god he is so full of shit that it obvious.

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  41. BUT I SURE can tell when someone is LYING for votes – which is what WORTH was doing by posting the ‘born again p215 BS’ on his web site. “First LEO to come up with the 10 plant limit” – what total BS

    Okay folks – once again – bottom line here – SHOW ME THE CITATIONS where ANYONE says (dated) pre-Mel Brown’s quotes on “10 plants” – this was to the Arcata City Council cir 1997 during the Medical ID Card and Ordnance proceedings was being held.

    Worth wasn’t there, he wasn’t part of any of those meetings. (Which I can understand, because it was Arcata City)

    Then the Humboldt County MJ TF was formed (the first one) and the ONLY person from the DA’s office was Terry Farmer. No Worth, and Terry agreed to adopt the 10 plants that Mel had come up with for Arcata.

    Worth was NOT in EITHER of those forming loops – no where no how –

    So again how come Worth puts it on his web site that “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”


    ??? so Worth LIES and its okay??? Right???

    You still won’t answer this question – because (I suggest) that its non-ego sytoic to how your ‘spinning’ this web site = Paul is BAD – and others in his office are GOOD!

    And I’m not Salzman – Richard can spell – I can’t! Also RS isn’t into Psych and I am .. chuckle … (hint, hint) …

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  42. Who cares if you are Ken Miller, Richard Salzman or Patrick Riggs. You are psycho and purposely misleading.

    My bet is not RS but Dr. Pot himself, Ken Miller. Could be why your so rabid about the 215 pot issue.

    Take some of your medicine and calm down.

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  43. I am listening to you 3:57 - For someone who is into psych, you see things awfully one-dimensionally.

    Just because Richard Salzman wasn't in the office - if you were even correct in that - would not mean he didn't have anything to do with the campaign. It would actually be quite normal that he would spend little time there.

    Writing letters to the editor means concisely editing your points to a few words. Same with ads.

    And ad like the Mel Brown ad is gelled down from hours of interview and discussion, as is the Steve Knight ad. The comments and input are distilled to one phrase or two - and this seems to have particularly rocked your world.

    Worth Dikeman is a baby boomer, probably like you. He doesn't like the death penalty, but as a prosecutor he can try a death penalty case. What makes you imagine that he is so one dimensional as you see him?

    Do you even understand that the DA has 'prosecutorial discretion' - and that Gallegos could have exercised it without all the histrionic drama? Do you think that Dikeman had to call a press conference and get it written in stone to allow 215 patients to keep 10 plants?

    For that matter, were you paying attention when Gallegos reneged on his 100 plant stance, leaving the patient community to hang in the wind? Just curious.

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  44. No Rose - it hasn't 'rocked my world' but people in glass houses shouldn't toss stones. You (et al) and Worth himself puts his integrity as impeachable. And here is an out and out LIE - and you are excusing it with "it was hours and hours of interviews and discussions"

    A thing is or it isn't = Hold the same standard of "your people" that you do to Paul. Ie how come he allows a blanket lie on his web site?

    Worth was NOT the first LEO to come up with the 10 plant guidelines, period.

    It would be like some one doing an AD and showing it to me and it said, "____ was one of the founding people who helped create p215."

    I'd say "Hay that is a lie - don't print that." and if it was printed - I'd have to do a retraction, and sure as hell NOT keep it on my web site!

    I might say, "Gosh so and so THOUGHT because of my p215 knowledge that I had something to do with it - but in fact all I ever did was testify in the SB420 hearings to the Cal Assembly. But no I was not there for the forming of p215." (or what ever)

    Worth could have said, “Look I don’t want the wrong impression, I was NOT the first LEO to come up with the 10 plant guideline, that came from my friend Mel Brown, Steve got it wrong. We adopted the 10 plant guideline from Mel about 3 or 4 years later, it was put in place by Terry Farmer, and I followed it as a guideline, where I felt it applied.”

    Now THAT is the truth – or CLOSER to reality then what Worth allowed on his web site, but its okay with you that he LIES -

    But Worth left it = WHY? -- why leave a LIE? - when in fact when OTHERS WERE pushing the 10 plant guideline - he was stating (quite clearly) in national magazines that he was AGAINST p215 people having ANY rights or guidelines (and read the piece - he was addressing a group who wanted to have some clarifications as to what was legal and what wasn't - and how to go about it - and he said "THEY HAVE NONE." -

    sure different then the 10 in Arcata - which was later adopted by Terry - so what's up???


    Seems Wroth is a bright guy – and one can assume that he read his own ads, so why leave this ovious departure from the truth? Was be PANDERING to the P215 / MMJ people – redsigning him self as a PRO-p215 person? I don’t know – but that’s what damn near every p215 person I knew of thought. They all saw Worth as someone FORCED into accepting p215, constantly harassing p215 patients, and all knew the comement made in Rolling Stone to be “WORTH ON P215” so then to have the old head of H-MET say “well Worth came up with the 10 plant guideline” chuckle – it was a sorry attempt to make ‘your hero’ a born again p215 supporter.

    And that’s okay with you right? – Paul = BAD / everyone else = GOOD.

    Why aren't you holding this LIE up to the same scrutiny that you hold Paul up to?

    Your side is INFALLIBLE
    Paul is BAD - Everyone else in that office is GOOD!

    PLEASE TELL ME how you can say this man WORTH DIKEMAN is NOT LYING when he posts on his web site an ad that reads, “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”

    This is A TOTAL LIE – Mel Brown (APD) was the first person to have LEO’s leave 10 plants behind. (see citations above) then Terry Farmer adopted it for the county (again see citations above).


    STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THAT - your dancing around it, but your NOT addressing that its a LIE to say he was the first LEO to do 10 plant thing, when it was Mel Brown, and in fact during the same time that Mel is quoted in national media about it - Worth says that there are NO 215 rights - to a comity who were trying to work out some guidelines, just like they were working out with Mel (who said 10).

    So your NOT answering the question about Worth's LIE here, your dancing around it.

    As to the rest - well answer me the above - and I'll address the rest - below -

    a.) Terry DID call a press conference, how else would people know what legal was? Your being silly, you had to have read it, it was in all the papers. It was Farmer adopting the Arcata guidelines of Mel Brown. Worth didn't call one - he gave interviews saying he was against it. (see my citations above on Worth in the Rolling Stone).


    B.) Paul did NOT renege on his 100 plant stance. Paul NEVER had a 100 plant stance; he had a 100 sq ft stance. You obviously don't know p215's next law sb420 was made into law, and said that DA's do NOT have the ability to change plant counts, sq ft et al, so Paul said, "the law says its up to the Board of Supervisors" (which is exactly what SB420 said - and when SB420 became law (that Jan) is when he changed his stance, but also said that his office would follow its current procedural standers until a ruling came from the BOS's MMJ TF - which it did in June that year. Which was 100 plants so nothing really changed, it was just that the BOS's were given the power by SB420 so Paul (following the law) handed it over to them (so to speak) Roger Rodine (sp?) made a motion to adopt the 100 sq ft. in December of the pervious year. The BOS's decided to hand the whole item over to a MMJ TF and it met several times a month and finally adopted the 100 sq ft 'stance' just like Paul had - in fact it simplified it, Paul's guidelines were more stringent ie 99 plants tops and also 3000 watts was the limits, the BOS's dropped the plant count as well as the wattage constraints.

    So the good people of Humboldt, it would seem, rather then suggesting a tighter 'plant count' or less area, or more constraints suggested looser ones! (of all things) that that liberal Paul! - go figure! BTW - the Sheriff’s Dept, Police Chief’s association, Probation dept, Labor dept, Health Dept and Hospice were just a few people on that Task Force (oh lets not forget HSU and head of Humboldt Schools, as well as some one from No. Humboldt school district) were all at those meetings - about 22 people all together. And they all came up with a less stringent guideline then "liberal" Paul.

    Funny huh? Always found it that way myself, all the conservatives were 'cripin' about how horrible Paul's MMJ guidelines were - and when the county government votes on it - they come up with something looser!

    Anyway the reason he pulled his - like I say - was because of SB420 taking effect, and handing the MMJ guideline setting, over to the Board of Sups.

    So in fact the patient community was never 'left to hang' - as the Board of Sups w/ the DAs office and the Sheriff’s dept all conjointly agreed to keep the DA's (Paul's) guidelines in place until the Board of Sups could decide. This process took about 6 months - no time during that 6 months were 'patients' left to "hang in the wind" - it was all in the Board of Sup's minutes - as well as you can call Sheriff Phelp(sp?) or whom ever. No one was 'in the wind' - unless they were not informed, read the paper, listened to the radio et al - then perhaps they (you) didn't get the info.

    As I said, this sort of thing precipitates press releases, the same thing you seem to 'defend' Worth of NOT doing – (though he gives interviews on his anit-p215 stance to national Mags) you don't even know that every time something goes down in the local MMJ world - it makes front page. Any guidelines setting or changes work that way. Mel Browns made Time Mag in fact. Worth's NON-acceptance of which made Rolling Stone, but you STILL want to dance around that fact.

    Worth lied on his web site - period - or Steve Knight lied, in Worth's behalf and Worth let it go. You still have NOT addressed that!

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  45. To specifically answer your question:

    Here's what WORTH said in the ad in the Independent:

    Where do you stand on 215?

    Q: They say you are going to be tough on small medical marijuana growers. Is this true?

    A: No. Proposition 215 is the law in the State of California, no matter what they say in Washington DC. I will continue to honor the letter and spirit of 215. I will also continue to honor the Board of Supervisor’s guidelines, and will make no effort to undermine or change those guidelines.

    I will, however, continue to prosecute those who commercially distribute marijuana and allow it into our schools.

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  46. Here's what Steve Knight said:

    When I first took over the marijuana unit as a Sergeant in latter 1996, it was right after Prop 215 passed. Worth was the marijuana prosecutor at the time. I spoke with him alot for guidance because we had no guidelines.

    Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave ten plants behind when the person had a 215 card.

    He suggested ten plants because that was the cut off for diversion. He also suggested I let the growers pick the ten plants they wanted to keep, which I did. We used this policy for years, until the current County guidelines were set.

    Worth took a big step where other County Prosecutors still had a zero tolerance policy and were throwing folks in jail.

    Bottom line, it was Worth's intent to follow the spirit of 215/420, then and now.

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  47. Here's what Mel Brown said:

    In 28 1/2 years in law enforcement, I have never come out publicly in support of a candidate, but there is too much at stake in this election.

    Be it a crime involving panhandling on the Plaza or a homicide, cases must be tried on facts, not politics.

    The D.A.'s office is there to represent the victims of crime and ensure those responsible are brought into a court of law.

    The D.A.'s office needs strong leadership and I'm supporting Dikeman for DA.

    Because it matters

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  48. I do not believe that Worth was lying if he said that 215 doesn't affect the growers in the hills.

    215 was for compassionate use/medical marijuana. It wasn't a free license for anyone to grow as much as they want, then or now. There's nothing anti 215 in that statement.

    I would not expect Worth to make any announcements because it is the DAs job to make statements to the press, not the indvicual DDAs.

    It's quite a rant you've got going, but, for those who are interested, I'll post your article for the archives.

    I believe your question is well and duly answered.

    And if you want to hold people to old quotes - let's look at Paul's comments in that same article with the "garbage cases"..."THE ISSUES: Proposition 215. Favors a more "progressive" attitude toward those who claim the right to medical marijuana. Would raise the limit on amount allowed with doctor's recommendation from 10 plants to 25, and believes the district attorney can get the sheriff to fall in line with that policy." That was to get elected. We all know how that changed once he was elected.

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  49. Hey Salzman, where did you buy your SUV at and did you get a good dea on it?

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  50. Hey Ken - cut your hair, it did wonders for Larry...almost makes him look human!

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  51. Could a haircut make Ken look sane?

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  52. Worth costing us more money ...

    "appeals court ruled former Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman had made racially based remarks during the jury selection process, past reports indicate."


    Judge denies bail to murder suspect
    by Kara Machado, 5/14/2007
    http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=24047
    Humboldt County Superior Court Judge Timothy Cissna did not release Richard Craig Kesser from jail on his own recognizance Monday.

    Cissna also denied the motion to change Kesser’s bail status — from no bail to $500,000 — and denied a motion to dismiss the case.

    Kesser and co-defendant Jennifer Gayle Leahy, who was not in court Monday, are being given new trials due to their 1992 murder convictions being overturned in September — when an appeals court ruled former Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman had made racially based remarks during the jury selection process, past reports indicate.

    The case against Kesser and Leahy stems from the November 1991 killing of Kesser’s ex-wife, Mary Kesser, in Fortuna.

    Last week, Leahy’s attorney, Eureka-based attorney Neal Sanders, requested, and was granted, a continuance in order to be better prepared to take on the “complex” case.

    Prior to Sanders’ motion being granted at last week’s court proceedings, Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Allan Dollison said he would not oppose the continuance, but wanted the co-defendants to be tried together.

    Kesser’s attorney, Humboldt County Chief Conflict Counsel Glenn Brown, objected for multiple reasons to Kesser’s trial being continued at last week’s proceedings, including Kesser wanting to proceed with the trial and other clients’ trials Brown said he was obligated to.


    On Monday, Brown argued that due to last week’s ruling that Kesser’s trial be continued — from its initially scheduled start date of Monday to July 9 — Kesser’s rights were “delegated to second-class status to those of his co-defendant’s” and Kesser should be released on his own recognizance.


    “That would give the co-defendant and the (DA’s Office) all the time they need to get ready (for trial),” Brown said.

    Dollison argued that “at no point have the people said they were not ready to proceed; (we) have not sought continuances.”

    “We (were) just OK with the co-defendant’s motion (for a) continuance,” Dollison said. “... This is a very, very complex case.

    “Under (a specific code), the people have a right to keep (cases) together.”

    Brown argued that although the DA’s Office did not oppose Sanders’ motion for a continuance, “they lobbied for it and used it to continue Mr. Kesser’s” trial.

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  53. Nice try. Not gonna fly, though. What you have here is the result of a defense attorney's YEARS of appeals, trying every little thing he could possibly think of to try to save his client from his sentence. That's what's costing you the money. Enough time went by that the political correctness climate changed just enough to allow this little chink to open up a floodgate.

    Quite unlike Gallegos' Rollin case being overturned because he repeatedly used Rollin's un-Mirandized denial of guilt as evidence of his guilt (by Gallegos' twisted reasoning, denying he was guilty proved he was guilty) rather than his MIRANDIZED CONFESSION. It didn't even take years oi attempts to overturn that one.

    You keep trying to defend your guy, though. Defend his neglect, his plagiarism, his dismissing nine felonies for the son of a man who gave him 10 grand for his re-election campaign... You just keep on spinning.

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