tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post1830363402808177296..comments2023-12-23T03:49:20.907-08:00Comments on watchpaul: Our loss, Their Gain.Rosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-81434043058350118042007-05-17T09:04:00.000-07:002007-05-17T09:04:00.000-07:00Nice try. Not gonna fly, though. What you have her...Nice try. Not gonna fly, though. What you have here is the result of a defense attorney's YEARS of appeals, trying every little thing he could possibly think of to try to save his client from his sentence. That's what's costing you the money. Enough time went by that the political correctness climate changed just enough to allow this little chink to open up a floodgate.<BR/><BR/>Quite unlike Gallegos' Rollin case being overturned because he repeatedly used Rollin's un-Mirandized denial of guilt as evidence of his guilt (by Gallegos' twisted reasoning, denying he was guilty proved he was guilty) rather than his MIRANDIZED CONFESSION. It didn't even take years oi attempts to overturn that one.<BR/><BR/>You keep trying to defend your guy, though. Defend his neglect, his plagiarism, his dismissing nine felonies for the son of a man who gave him 10 grand for his re-election campaign... You just keep on spinning.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-83637692255581307382007-05-17T08:32:00.000-07:002007-05-17T08:32:00.000-07:00Worth costing us more money ... "appeals court rul...Worth costing us more money ... <BR/><BR/>"appeals court ruled former Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman had made racially based remarks during the jury selection process, past reports indicate."<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Judge denies bail to murder suspect <BR/>by Kara Machado, 5/14/2007 <BR/> http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=24047 <BR/>Humboldt County Superior Court Judge Timothy Cissna did not release Richard Craig Kesser from jail on his own recognizance Monday.<BR/><BR/>Cissna also denied the motion to change Kesser’s bail status — from no bail to $500,000 — and denied a motion to dismiss the case.<BR/><BR/>Kesser and co-defendant Jennifer Gayle Leahy, who was not in court Monday, are being given new trials due to their 1992 murder convictions being overturned in September — when an appeals court ruled former Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman had made racially based remarks during the jury selection process, past reports indicate.<BR/><BR/>The case against Kesser and Leahy stems from the November 1991 killing of Kesser’s ex-wife, Mary Kesser, in Fortuna.<BR/><BR/>Last week, Leahy’s attorney, Eureka-based attorney Neal Sanders, requested, and was granted, a continuance in order to be better prepared to take on the “complex” case.<BR/><BR/>Prior to Sanders’ motion being granted at last week’s court proceedings, Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Allan Dollison said he would not oppose the continuance, but wanted the co-defendants to be tried together.<BR/><BR/>Kesser’s attorney, Humboldt County Chief Conflict Counsel Glenn Brown, objected for multiple reasons to Kesser’s trial being continued at last week’s proceedings, including Kesser wanting to proceed with the trial and other clients’ trials Brown said he was obligated to.<BR/><BR/><BR/>On Monday, Brown argued that due to last week’s ruling that Kesser’s trial be continued — from its initially scheduled start date of Monday to July 9 — Kesser’s rights were “delegated to second-class status to those of his co-defendant’s” and Kesser should be released on his own recognizance.<BR/><BR/><BR/>“That would give the co-defendant and the (DA’s Office) all the time they need to get ready (for trial),” Brown said.<BR/><BR/>Dollison argued that “at no point have the people said they were not ready to proceed; (we) have not sought continuances.”<BR/><BR/>“We (were) just OK with the co-defendant’s motion (for a) continuance,” Dollison said. “... This is a very, very complex case.<BR/><BR/>“Under (a specific code), the people have a right to keep (cases) together.”<BR/><BR/>Brown argued that although the DA’s Office did not oppose Sanders’ motion for a continuance, “they lobbied for it and used it to continue Mr. Kesser’s” trial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-39456307122445474192006-12-08T22:49:00.000-08:002006-12-08T22:49:00.000-08:00Could a haircut make Ken look sane?Could a haircut make Ken look sane?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-45729190845878138292006-12-07T15:23:00.000-08:002006-12-07T15:23:00.000-08:00Hey Ken - cut your hair, it did wonders for Larry....Hey Ken - cut your hair, it did wonders for Larry...almost makes him look human!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-58381750976239988292006-12-07T14:35:00.000-08:002006-12-07T14:35:00.000-08:00Hey Salzman, where did you buy your SUV at and did...Hey Salzman, where did you buy your SUV at and did you get a good dea on it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-49727401148808896372006-12-06T22:14:00.000-08:002006-12-06T22:14:00.000-08:00I do not believe that Worth was lying if he said t...I do not believe that Worth was lying if he said that 215 doesn't affect the growers in the hills.<br /><br />215 was for compassionate use/medical marijuana. It wasn't a free license for anyone to grow as much as they want, then or now. There's nothing anti 215 in that statement.<br /><br />I would not expect Worth to make any announcements because it is the DAs job to make statements to the press, not the indvicual DDAs.<br /><br />It's quite a rant you've got going, but, for those who are interested, I'll post your article for the archives.<br /><br />I believe your question is well and duly answered.<br /><br />And if you want to hold people to old quotes - let's look at Paul's comments in that same article with the "garbage cases"..."<i>THE ISSUES: Proposition 215. Favors a more "progressive" attitude toward those who claim the right to medical marijuana. Would raise the limit on amount allowed with doctor's recommendation <STRONG>from 10 plants to 25,</STRONG> and believes the district attorney can get the sheriff to fall in line with that policy."</i> That was to get elected. We all know how that changed once he was elected.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-70377480992598931442006-12-06T21:45:00.000-08:002006-12-06T21:45:00.000-08:00Here's what Mel Brown said:
In 28 1/2 years in la...Here's what Mel Brown said:<br /><br />In 28 1/2 years in law enforcement, I have never come out publicly in support of a candidate, but there is too much at stake in this election.<br /><br />Be it a crime involving panhandling on the Plaza or a homicide, cases must be tried on facts, not politics.<br /><br />The D.A.'s office is there to represent the victims of crime and ensure those responsible are brought into a court of law.<br /><br />The D.A.'s office needs strong leadership and I'm supporting Dikeman for DA.<br /><br />Because it mattersRosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-50793274943177170462006-12-06T21:43:00.000-08:002006-12-06T21:43:00.000-08:00Here's what Steve Knight said:
When I first took ...Here's what Steve Knight said:<br /><br />When I first took over the marijuana unit as a Sergeant in latter 1996, it was right after Prop 215 passed. Worth was the marijuana prosecutor at the time. I spoke with him alot for guidance because we had no guidelines. <br /><br />Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave ten plants behind when the person had a 215 card.<br /><br />He suggested ten plants because that was the cut off for diversion. He also suggested I let the growers pick the ten plants they wanted to keep, which I did. We used this policy for years, until the current County guidelines were set.<br /><br />Worth took a big step where other County Prosecutors still had a zero tolerance policy and were throwing folks in jail. <br /><br />Bottom line, it was Worth's intent to follow the spirit of 215/420, then and now.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-21966129816364267092006-12-06T21:42:00.000-08:002006-12-06T21:42:00.000-08:00To specifically answer your question:
Here's what...To specifically answer your question:<br /><br />Here's what WORTH said in the ad in the Independent:<br /><br />Where do you stand on 215?<br /><br />Q: They say you are going to be tough on small medical marijuana growers. Is this true? <br /><br />A: No. Proposition 215 is the law in the State of California, no matter what they say in Washington DC. I will continue to honor the letter and spirit of 215. I will also continue to honor the Board of Supervisor’s guidelines, and will make no effort to undermine or change those guidelines.<br /><br />I will, however, continue to prosecute those who commercially distribute marijuana and allow it into our schools.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-22357894458802688562006-12-06T17:53:00.000-08:002006-12-06T17:53:00.000-08:00No Rose - it hasn't 'rocked my world' but people i...No Rose - it hasn't 'rocked my world' but people in glass houses shouldn't toss stones. You (et al) and Worth himself puts his integrity as impeachable. And here is an out and out LIE - and you are excusing it with "it was hours and hours of interviews and discussions" <br /><br />A thing is or it isn't = Hold the same standard of "your people" that you do to Paul. Ie how come he allows a blanket lie on his web site?<br /><br />Worth was NOT the first LEO to come up with the 10 plant guidelines, period.<br /><br />It would be like some one doing an AD and showing it to me and it said, "____ was one of the founding people who helped create p215." <br /><br />I'd say "Hay that is a lie - don't print that." and if it was printed - I'd have to do a retraction, and sure as hell NOT keep it on my web site!<br /><br />I might say, "Gosh so and so THOUGHT because of my p215 knowledge that I had something to do with it - but in fact all I ever did was testify in the SB420 hearings to the Cal Assembly. But no I was not there for the forming of p215." (or what ever)<br /><br />Worth could have said, “Look I don’t want the wrong impression, I was NOT the first LEO to come up with the 10 plant guideline, that came from my friend Mel Brown, Steve got it wrong. We adopted the 10 plant guideline from Mel about 3 or 4 years later, it was put in place by Terry Farmer, and I followed it as a guideline, where I felt it applied.”<br /><br />Now THAT is the truth – or CLOSER to reality then what Worth allowed on his web site, but its okay with you that he LIES - <br /><br />But Worth left it = WHY? -- why leave a LIE? - when in fact when OTHERS WERE pushing the 10 plant guideline - he was stating (quite clearly) in national magazines that he was AGAINST p215 people having ANY rights or guidelines (and read the piece - he was addressing a group who wanted to have some clarifications as to what was legal and what wasn't - and how to go about it - and he said "THEY HAVE NONE." -<br /><br />sure different then the 10 in Arcata - which was later adopted by Terry - so what's up???<br /><br /><br />Seems Wroth is a bright guy – and one can assume that he read his own ads, so why leave this ovious departure from the truth? Was be PANDERING to the P215 / MMJ people – redsigning him self as a PRO-p215 person? I don’t know – but that’s what damn near every p215 person I knew of thought. They all saw Worth as someone FORCED into accepting p215, constantly harassing p215 patients, and all knew the comement made in Rolling Stone to be “WORTH ON P215” so then to have the old head of H-MET say “well Worth came up with the 10 plant guideline” chuckle – it was a sorry attempt to make ‘your hero’ a born again p215 supporter. <br /><br />And that’s okay with you right? – Paul = BAD / everyone else = GOOD.<br /><br />Why aren't you holding this LIE up to the same scrutiny that you hold Paul up to?<br /><br />Your side is INFALLIBLE <br />Paul is BAD - Everyone else in that office is GOOD! <br /><br />PLEASE TELL ME how you can say this man WORTH DIKEMAN is NOT LYING when he posts on his web site an ad that reads, “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”<br /><br />This is A TOTAL LIE – Mel Brown (APD) was the first person to have LEO’s leave 10 plants behind. (see citations above) then Terry Farmer adopted it for the county (again see citations above).<br /><br /><br />STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED THAT - your dancing around it, but your NOT addressing that its a LIE to say he was the first LEO to do 10 plant thing, when it was Mel Brown, and in fact during the same time that Mel is quoted in national media about it - Worth says that there are NO 215 rights - to a comity who were trying to work out some guidelines, just like they were working out with Mel (who said 10).<br /><br />So your NOT answering the question about Worth's LIE here, your dancing around it.<br /><br /><b>As to the rest - well answer me the above - and I'll address the rest - below -</b><br /><br />a.) Terry DID call a press conference, how else would people know what legal was? Your being silly, you had to have read it, it was in all the papers. It was Farmer adopting the Arcata guidelines of Mel Brown. Worth didn't call one - he gave interviews saying he was against it. (see my citations above on Worth in the Rolling Stone). <br /><br /><br />B.) Paul did NOT renege on his 100 plant stance. Paul NEVER had a 100 plant stance; he had a 100 sq ft stance. You obviously don't know p215's next law <b>sb420 was made into law, and said that DA's do NOT have the ability to change plant counts, sq ft et al, so Paul said, "the law says its up to the Board of Supervisors"</b> (which is exactly what SB420 said - and when SB420 became law (that Jan) is when he changed his stance, but also said that his office would follow its current procedural standers until a ruling came from the BOS's MMJ TF - which it did in June that year. Which was 100 plants so nothing really changed, it was just that the BOS's were given the power by SB420 so Paul (following the law) handed it over to them (so to speak) Roger Rodine (sp?) made a motion to adopt the 100 sq ft. in December of the pervious year. The BOS's decided to hand the whole item over to a MMJ TF and it met several times a month and finally adopted the 100 sq ft 'stance' just like Paul had - in fact it simplified it, Paul's guidelines were more stringent ie 99 plants tops and also 3000 watts was the limits, the BOS's dropped the plant count as well as the wattage constraints.<br /><br />So the good people of Humboldt, it would seem, rather then suggesting a tighter 'plant count' or less area, or more constraints suggested looser ones! (of all things) that that liberal Paul! - go figure! BTW - the Sheriff’s Dept, Police Chief’s association, Probation dept, Labor dept, Health Dept and Hospice were just a few people on that Task Force (oh lets not forget HSU and head of Humboldt Schools, as well as some one from No. Humboldt school district) were all at those meetings - about 22 people all together. And they all came up with a less stringent guideline then "liberal" Paul.<br /><br />Funny huh? Always found it that way myself, all the conservatives were 'cripin' about how horrible Paul's MMJ guidelines were - and when the county government votes on it - they come up with something looser!<br /><br />Anyway the reason he pulled his - like I say - was because of SB420 taking effect, and handing the MMJ guideline setting, over to the Board of Sups.<br /><br /><b>So in fact the patient community was never 'left to hang' - as the Board of Sups w/ the DAs office and the Sheriff’s dept all conjointly agreed to keep the DA's (Paul's) guidelines in place until the Board of Sups could decide. This process took about 6 months - no time during that 6 months were 'patients' left to "hang in the wind" - it was all in the Board of Sup's minutes - as well as you can call Sheriff Phelp(sp?) or whom ever. No one was 'in the wind' - unless they were not informed, read the paper, listened to the radio et al - then perhaps they (you) didn't get the info. </b><br /><br />As I said, this sort of thing precipitates press releases, the same thing you seem to 'defend' Worth of NOT doing – (though he gives interviews on his anit-p215 stance to national Mags) you don't even know that every time something goes down in the local MMJ world - it makes front page. Any guidelines setting or changes work that way. Mel Browns made Time Mag in fact. Worth's NON-acceptance of which made Rolling Stone, but you STILL want to dance around that fact.<br /><br /><b>Worth lied on his web site - period - or Steve Knight lied, in Worth's behalf and Worth let it go. You still have NOT addressed that! <br /></b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-7496233277559163622006-12-05T15:58:00.000-08:002006-12-05T15:58:00.000-08:00I am listening to you 3:57 - For someone who is in...I am listening to you 3:57 - For someone who is into psych, you see things awfully one-dimensionally.<br /><br />Just because Richard Salzman wasn't in the office - if you were even correct in that - would not mean he didn't have anything to do with the campaign. It would actually be quite normal that he would spend little time there.<br /><br />Writing letters to the editor means concisely editing your points to a few words. Same with ads.<br /><br />And ad like the Mel Brown ad is gelled down from hours of interview and discussion, as is the Steve Knight ad. The comments and input are distilled to one phrase or two - and this seems to have particularly rocked your world.<br /><br />Worth Dikeman is a baby boomer, probably like you. He doesn't like the death penalty, but as a prosecutor he can try a death penalty case. What makes you imagine that he is so one dimensional as you see him? <br /><br />Do you even understand that the DA has 'prosecutorial discretion' - and that Gallegos could have exercised it without all the histrionic drama? Do you think that Dikeman had to call a press conference and get it written in stone to allow 215 patients to keep 10 plants? <br /><br />For that matter, were you paying attention when Gallegos reneged on his 100 plant stance, leaving the patient community to hang in the wind? Just curious.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-6532539453506792092006-12-05T14:39:00.000-08:002006-12-05T14:39:00.000-08:00Who cares if you are Ken Miller, Richard Salzman o...Who cares if you are Ken Miller, Richard Salzman or Patrick Riggs. You are psycho and purposely misleading.<br /><br />My bet is not RS but Dr. Pot himself, Ken Miller. Could be why your so rabid about the 215 pot issue.<br /><br />Take some of your medicine and calm down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-57425625288162085612006-12-05T14:28:00.000-08:002006-12-05T14:28:00.000-08:00BUT I SURE can tell when someone is LYING for vote...BUT I SURE can tell when someone is LYING for votes – which is what WORTH was doing by posting the ‘born again p215 BS’ on his web site. “First LEO to come up with the 10 plant limit” – what total BS <br /><br />Okay folks – once again – bottom line here – SHOW ME THE CITATIONS where ANYONE says (dated) pre-Mel Brown’s quotes on “10 plants” – this was to the Arcata City Council cir 1997 during the Medical ID Card and Ordnance proceedings was being held.<br /><br />Worth wasn’t there, he wasn’t part of any of those meetings. (Which I can understand, because it was Arcata City)<br /><br />Then the Humboldt County MJ TF was formed (the first one) and the ONLY person from the DA’s office was Terry Farmer. No Worth, and Terry agreed to adopt the 10 plants that Mel had come up with for Arcata.<br /><br />Worth was NOT in EITHER of those forming loops – no where no how – <br /><br /><b>So again how come Worth puts it on his web site that “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”</b><br /><br /><br />??? so Worth LIES and its okay??? Right??? <br /><br />You still won’t answer this question – because (I suggest) that its non-ego sytoic to how your ‘spinning’ this web site = Paul is BAD – and others in his office are GOOD!<br /><br />And I’m not Salzman – Richard can spell – I can’t! Also RS isn’t into Psych and I am .. chuckle … (hint, hint) …Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-21443657964149409702006-12-05T11:03:00.000-08:002006-12-05T11:03:00.000-08:00Richard must be bored....thank god he is so full o...Richard must be bored....thank god he is so full of shit that it obvious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-82088449736978861692006-12-04T21:26:00.000-08:002006-12-04T21:26:00.000-08:00Hey Mr. Anonymous SALZMAN, SHUT UP!Hey Mr. Anonymous SALZMAN, SHUT UP!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-53866147422428456222006-12-04T16:47:00.000-08:002006-12-04T16:47:00.000-08:00Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth w...Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth was so for decrim he'd say in print:<br /><br />"Ha!" says Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman. "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."<br />Dikeman quoted in Baum, Dan, "California's Separate Peace." Rolling Stone.<br />http://www.drugpolicy.org/library%5Cpeace2.cfm<br /><br /><br />THEN Worth posts on his web site (http://www.worthdikeman.org/ center bottom) an ad about how PRO p215 he was. From Steve Knight, who goes on to say that Wrorth put together the 10 plant guidelines. Which is another LIE because it was APD Cheif Mel Brown who started them (see: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990873,00.html and also http://www.northcoastjournal.com/071599/cover0715.html for history of the P215 / 10 plant guideline.)<br /><br />Also Terry Farmer was on the STATE p215 taskforce NOT Worth - nor was Worth on the Local Humboldt p215 taskforce (the first one cir 97-99)<br /><br />Again WHY would this "wonderful honest man" (aka Worth Dikeman) recreate his past with the out and out LIE about how much pro p215 he was on his web site?<br /><br />When a simple web check comes up with comments like:<br /><br />"My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."<br /><br />That's pretty much different then the SPIN he and god old Steve Knight put on Worth’s past ... <br /><br />We're NOT talking about "what Terry or Paul or what anyone else had him do or say" – Think Worth came up with that line pretty much him self, then to post on his web site how he came up with the 10 plant limit, and was pro p215 is really different then: "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say." When they were asking about 10 plants, and the same protection patients got in the cities.<br /><br />BTW – at the time Terry Farmer’s quote on it was, “Well certainly something needs to be done for people, its not American Gothic, people don’t all raise their own food at home in the cities.” So that’s a real basic difference between Worth’s vision and Terry’s as memorialized in quotations. <br /><br /><br />I'm pulling Worth's OWN WORDS about it. Sure looks different to me, then what he was spinning. ..<br /><br /><b>PLEASE TELL ME how you can say this man WORTH DIKEMAN is NOT LYING when he posts on his web site an ad that reads, “Worth was the first person to have law enforcement leave 10 plants behind when the person had a p215 card.”<br /><br />This is A TOTAL LIE – Mel Brown (APD) was the first person to have LEO’s leave 10 plants behind. (see citations above) then Terry Farmer adopted it for the county (again see citations above).<br /><br />Worth did NOT do this, he had nothing to do with it – he wasn’t part ot the Task force, he had NOTHING to do with setting up the Arcata ordnance, so PLEASE TELL ME how he can put this on his web site – and you can tell me he’s NOT lying?<br /><br />If Paul (or as you all call him Gag) did this – you’d be screaming bloody murder, why aren’t you screaming about this when WORTH DIKEMAN puts an out and out LIE on his web site?</b><br /><br />Simple because it doesn’t support your Groups Fantasy that “Paul is bad – and everyone who left his office is lily white and wonderful.”<br /><br /><br />So how great a “loss” the ‘theme of these posts” is it to have someone who makes claims on their web site that are a lie? How come if Paul did it – you’d have it down chapter and verse yet here you find a need to figure out some justification for what Worth did or meant?<br /><br />Paul didn’t make him put the LIE on Worth’s web site – neither did Terry – so who did it? WORTH DIKEMAN – period – buck stops here … <br /><br />To alow a claim that Worth came up with or suggested or was the FRIST LEO to suggest the 10 plant guideline … is just BS – what ever Worth’s views on MJ/MMJ are or are not – the fact is he has posted on his web site something he knows to be a lie. How come that’s okay?<br /><br />And nope it wasn’t Paul or Terry who made him do this – it was his own doing .. chose to mislead and recreate the past. Again MEL BROWN was the first LEO who suggested the 10 plants, and Terry was who made it official. Worth NEVER accepted it, and would fight anyone (including HIV patients with less plants) and drag them though courts. Also a MS patient who only had less then 10 was so poorly treated by Worth that the Judge in the case told Worth that if he kept bring in sick people to his court, that Worth would be held in contempt. This was cir 2000. Sure doesn’t seem like Worth was a leader in telling LEO’s to leave them behind then!<br /><br />As far as Worth / the DA’s office in general and P215 under Paul: Paul has asked p215 groups – including the Humboldt Board of Sups. MMJ TF that if someone is busted, that they call him, if they feel their p215 rights were being trampled, because (and here is the interesting part, which addresses that “Paul reviews all the cases”) BECAUSE he is NOT shown (for some reason) all the p215 cases that come in.<br /><br />Again Paul was NOT made privy to all the p215 cases that come in that office, while Dikeman was Green Dope prosecutor. Gosh I wonder why? I’ll call Terry and find out if he was, some time this holiday’s season and get back to you on that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-64406736744495536822006-12-04T15:34:00.000-08:002006-12-04T15:34:00.000-08:001. If Worth was doing something contrary to what ...1. If Worth was doing something contrary to what Paul or Terry wanted, that would be insubordination, and they could put a stop to that in any number of ways.<br /><br />2. Terry looked at every felony file before it ever went to intervention hearing, and he signed off on or changed the offer to represent what HE wanted.<br /><br />3. Worth was obviously talking about H&S 11359, cultivation for sale. You might find this hard to believe, but some people actually used 215 cards to try to sell marijuana and actually had no legitimate medical complaint. That's called enforcing the law, which is something a good prosecutor does, regardless of their personal feelings on the law (there are three branches of government, and the prosecutors are not the legislative branch.)<br /><br />3. Paul was the boss. Any complaint that appeared in court, and any information that was filed bore his name. As the top of the organization, you are responsible for what goes on. If he did not want to prosecute marijuana cases, he could have said, "I don't want to see any marijuana cases filed." Or, he could have said he didn't want the case to go to trial.<br /><br />So either: Gallegos was fine with the cases that were filed/tried OR he didn't know what was going on in his office.<br /><br />Either way you slice it, he was in charge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-25144223635534335052006-12-04T15:05:00.000-08:002006-12-04T15:05:00.000-08:00Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth w...Hum - so tell me again why (if as you say) Worth was so for decrim he'd say in print:<br /><br />"Ha!" says Humboldt County Deputy District Attorney Worth Dikeman. "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, no matter what the supervisors say."<br /> Dikeman quoted in Baum, Dan, "California's Separate Peace." Rolling Stone.<br />http://www.drugpolicy.org/library%5Cpeace2.cfm<br /><br /><br />THEN Worth posts on his web site (http://www.worthdikeman.org/ center bottom) an ad about how PRO p215 he was. From Steve Knight, who goes on to say that Wrorth put together the 10 plant guidelines. Which is another LIE because it was APD Cheif Mel Brown who started them (see: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,990873,00.html and also http://www.northcoastjournal.com/071599/cover0715.html for history of the P215 / 10 plant guideline.)<br /><br />Also Terry Farmer was on the STATE p215 taskforce NOT Worth - nor was Worth on the Local Humboldt p215 taskforce (the first one cir 97-99)<br /><br />Again WHY would this "wonderful honest man" (aka Worth Dikeman) recreate his past with the out and out LIE about how much pro p215 he was on his web site?<br /><br />When a simple web check comes up with comments like:<br /><br />"My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, <b>no matter what the supervisors say</b>."<br /><br />That's pretty much different then the SPIN he and god old Steve Knight put on Worth’s past ... <br /><br />We're NOT talking about "what Terry or Paul or what anyone else had him do or say" – Think Worth came up with that line pretty much him self, then to post on his web site how he came up with the 10 plant limit, and was pro p215 is really different then: "My interpretation is that the growers in the hills have no protection under 215, <b>no matter what the supervisors say</b>." When they were asking about 10 plants, and the same protection patients got in the cities.<br /><br />BTW – at the time Terry Farmer’s quote on it was, “Well certainly something needs to be done for people, its not American Gothic, people don’t all raise their own food at home in the cities.” So that’s a real basic difference between Worth’s vision and Terry’s as memorialized in quotations. <br /><br /><br />I'm pulling Worth's OWN WORDS about it. Sure looks different to me, then what he was spinning. <br /><br />But if Worth was Paul it would be different =<br />YOUR LIES INFORMATION<br />THEIR LIES PROPAGANDA <br />is I believe how it goes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-87214403040297959682006-12-04T14:11:00.000-08:002006-12-04T14:11:00.000-08:0012/03/06 at 3:36:
Worth worked under two DAs here...12/03/06 at 3:36:<br /><br />Worth worked under two DAs here in Humboldt County, Terry and Paul, who you claim to admire. As a deputy with a boss, the deputy is subordinate. Worth did not do anything that was not signed off by these two in terms of marijuana prosecution. They both put him on that assignment with medical marijuana guidelines, and he carried out that duty.<br /><br />You obviously do not know Worth and have spent no time in getting to know him because, if you do, you would know that he has always favored decriminalization. He felt that way long before he ever ran for office. <br /><br />However, if he is given a case load by his boss, he will carry out his instructions to the best of his ability.<br /><br />Sadly, many people, like you, choose an unqualified and dishonest person for DA on what they perceived was a big issue, the pot issue. What you lost is somebody who will truly care about victims of violent crimes and make sure the perpetrator is punished. You have lost prosecutors who spent their careers putting child molesters and meth dealers in prison.<br /><br />So sad that a person like you who obviously has conviction, and as a child of the 60s who fought for equal rights has handed the keys to the jail to a narcissist who cares nothing of your causes. Worth actually did and does care. You were fooled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-19380278922330801262006-12-04T08:03:00.000-08:002006-12-04T08:03:00.000-08:0011:10 and 3:36 1) can't spell and 2)is obviously d...11:10 and 3:36 1) can't spell and 2)is obviously deliusional OR trying to spin things again away from Gags. Rose is correct. I even saw RS at Gallegos's headquarters, both with Gags there AND ALONE WHEN HE WASN'T ON THE COMPUTER. <br /><br />And I know Paul...he is so far from being his own man that it is pathetic. Try actually getting to know him and you will find that he has no character, will lie like a 5 year old, will offer anyone up to save his ass and (most importantly) could give a shit about anyone else....(his wife included.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-84492167691720193682006-12-03T16:48:00.000-08:002006-12-03T16:48:00.000-08:00Ah, only in Humboldt County can you drive a Bio-Di...Ah, only in Humboldt County can you drive a Bio-Diesel powered rig, wish for wind and solar power, enjoy recycling, vote against Paul Gallagos and be called a Evil Republican Plant and a Baby Killer Neo-Nazi.<br /><br />I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Salzman is bad for Humboldt County.Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-85132022211151315252006-12-03T16:17:00.000-08:002006-12-03T16:17:00.000-08:00Not materialistic - MATERNALISTIC. Motherly.
And...Not materialistic - MATERNALISTIC. Motherly. <br /><br />And, sorry. FLAT OUT. He is not doing a good job. Not at any level. Not by any rational standards.<br /><br />Both sides are mad at him, sir, because among other things, he got rid of Paul Hagen. The WINNING environmental prosecutor. Gone. Why? He dared to speak out against Gallegos at the HCDCC Coronation.<br /><br />Is Paul tired of everyone telling him what to do, so he rolls his eyes? No doubt he is. But my dear man, if he wasn't "bought" he wouldn't have filed the Palco appeal.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-71476314547523019532006-12-03T15:36:00.000-08:002006-12-03T15:36:00.000-08:00Rose - I have this picture in my mind of you goin...Rose - I have this picture in my mind of you going threw records of Roger R Terry F./Dave R., Bernie D. et al - trying to find out if what I said is true. It is – chuckle – it is .. NONE of this is new – you just got involved with it that’s all … <br /><br />Okay now on to your questions or statements and so forth … <br /><br />a.) "salzman wasn't in the office" - he WASN'T - I was talking about Paul's election this year - RS wasn't there period - and he wasn't 'behind the scenes' he was totally persona non-grata at that office, and in fact the Loc_ Slut_s people were working to keep him away. As I say THEY defamed him (to me for instance) much more and longer then the media did - in fact the only places I've seen RS made so important is right here.<br /><br />What I was saying was that RS HAD another 'chance' to act the "king maker" et al (like you all suggest he is) in the latest EUREKA elections (not Paul's) and he blew it. He bought into the same thing YOUR claiming he could do = "run it from home" (in your case you say "behind-the-scenes-advisor.")<br /><br />Now let me be clear again I'm speaking about THIS RECENT CITY COUNCIL ELECTION - NOT Paul's - again RS was NOT allowed - nor his Ideas around that office period! - His own people KEPT him away, making a big thing (bigger then the press did) about the e-mails. I was at that (Paul’s HQ) a lot during the last election and I NEVER saw RS there – expect once when he ran in and saying, “I’m just here to pick up more signs and I’m gone.” – he knew he had blown it – and had to stay away … <br /><br />Okay back to the election that just happened (Eureka City Council) During that election he was SUPPOSED (RS) to be working on it - but he'd do that 'advisor' thing - run in and run out - kind of in a showy way - then everything would fall apart. <br /><br />IE a campaign NEEDS someone to lead - that / those didn't. They had a group of campaign managers who would all blame each other, couldn't SIMPLY meet volunteers to pick up signs (for instance) in the AM - because they don't wake up that early? (what is that?) <br /><br />That sort of thing I'm talking about - that RS - back in say the Re-call would NEVER let happen - money wasted on WRONG printing - the list goes on and on - that IF RS had been there - or ANYONE 1/2 motivated and competent - perhaps the results would have been different.<br /><br />RS THINKS he could run it from home (or "Behind-the-scenes" as you put it Rose), but the results (or lack of same) that came out of the Eureka City Council election tend to suggest something else. He’s (in his mind) become too important to be in the trenches with the ‘little people’ – maybe he’s been reading your Blog and bought the line he IS that powerful. Like I say, it sure don’t look it from here – with the numbers that HE got in that last election!<br /><br />Sure you may have saw him - he was there - as of the last week, brought his dog et al ... big show - as many people show up for the last week. But for the 2 or 3 months ahead - he was NO WHERE around - expect that 'behind-the-scenes."<br /><br />So I have to disagree with you on line "A and B" - ie for RS to have an effect on an election he has to be there IN THE TRENCHES. vs. JUST getting money from donors, and 'behind the scenes' - I was there - I saw the failure coming … several of us did – when we saw who was being ‘courted’ or kept on – and who was doing work – I kept thinking IF RS was here – he wouldn’t let this BS happen – I know how he ran the Re-call, it was TOTALLY different. – he wasn’t allowed in to Paul’s last election – and ‘bought’ the idea that he was so ‘powerful’ that he could sit the Eureka one out. Paul’s squeaked by, with LOTS of last minute help from the grass roots – and the Eureka one never really happened. Like I say, it feels like people were slected upon their lack of ability vs. ability, and if RS was there – this wouldn’t have happened – but he wasn’t until the last few days. <br /><br />Again IF RS was there - that wouldn't have been an issue, he spent most of his time being an apologist for the people who weren't there. Which I now suspect was because if they were there he'd be expected to be there too.<br /><br />So I disagree - to make "RS" this big bad back room dealer - makes for FUN reading and great adventure story - but the facts suggest that if this was SO then HE would have swung the Eureka election around - vs. failing so miserable and by such a small margin. He just wasn't there, until the last week or so. And abet that he was the usual RS presents, wise cracking and looked for all to see that he was 'there on the job' - but it wasn't until those last few days that he was in that office.<br /><br />And that is one reason (no real direction from one source) that the campaign failed so miserably. Everyone could blame everyone else for not doing things, and RS protected everyone who didn't show up or was screwing up.<br /><br />---<br /><br />As to "C" Paul's ideals and RS - he's NOT on the phone with RS/PG everyday - because ever time I see Paul, he’s always asking me about stuff that I'd ASSUME he'd know if he was speaking to RS, (or some big deep ‘cartel’ that is always inferred in these blog spots). <br /><br />Yes they were and may even be friends, but even RS has said to me, "I wonder when Paul's going to forgive me for that e-mail thing." (Paraphrased) And “Damn is Paul EVER going to get over that e-mail thing?” <br /><br />So as to your belief that RS-PG have on going contacts its just not so - or not of the type you alleged. Like I say when ever I run into Paul, he's asking me stuff about things that would be CONMEN KNOWLEDGE if he was speaking with ANY regularity with RS. <br /><br />Paul's NOT that sneaky and or smart (no one is) and I'm (for sure) not that dumb. If he 'slipped' I'd know it - or remember it and try as I may - I've never gotten the impression that he's asking me things he already knows about. I know this, because every time he does, I think, 'I though you and RS talk.' And given how ‘loosy goosy’ you all claim Paul is about so much, one would think that he’d blow it at least once – and drop some info that shows he had prior knowledge about something and I just don’t see it.<br /><br /><br />--------<br />My standers? - just an old child of the 60's trying to do what's right ... <br />--------<br />Dose Paul share them? = Nope he's not old enough ... Doesn’t necessarily know what May 4, 1970 means - for instance (yup pop quiz = don't look it up <br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.. Kent State when Nat_ Gaurd shot US down for protesting the war.)<br /><br />That sort of thing + he knows nothing of the spray wars - and all that OLD SoHum History - and only heard about it = he's only been here about 10 years or so ... so NOPE couldn't share the same ideals - BUT he's the closet thing we got - and beats the hell out of Worth (for instance) when it comes to ideals -- Worth changes tunes to suit the voters - I lost ANY respect for him when he pulled that "I'm pro-p215 and invented the 10 plant thing" - I mean come on now - it was MEL BROWN - and Worth was chided by the courts for not RESPECTING it even when TERRY FARMER addopted it as a county guideline.<br /><br />I know many of the p215 cases seem bouges - but Worth made NO distintion. Terry did, some old person with cancer would get treated diffrently then some kid. But Worth? = No way Everyone was procucted to the limit of the law. How much money did he BLOW on failed p215 cases - where even the JUDGES were telling him to back off?<br /><br />Worth couldn't win a case, ever sit on a jury in one of his p125 cases, or any of them? He was so 'hard hitting' that he was plain rude to people, and turned loosing cases into Ad-Hom (personal) attacks. That's what lost him cases. Many who sat on Worth's jurys will tell you that.<br /><br /><br />BUT ON TO PAUL’S standers = two incendnts come to mind –<br /><br /><br />As I said before – I JUST sat there and watched someone these blogs suggest have some ‘power’ over Paul – sit there and try as they may, couldn’t convince him to act in the way they want him to. As I said above, I was sitting there and when I couldn’t stand to listen to this guys (one of your dark ones = chuckle) plees and see him eating up Paul’s time getting no where, I broke in and gave Paul a way to leave this guy. It was amazing, like I’m thinking “Paul is NOT buying this” – it was like watching some guy hit on some poor lady who’s TRYING to be nice – but really didn’t want to be there – and the guy wouldn’t take no for an answer. As I say Paul wasn’t budging, it would have been sort of funny, and in fact I made an off hand joke about it later, Paul just rolled his eyes, which I took to mean that he hated to go out in public because people like this were always on his back.<br /><br />Oh this brings another Paul instance to mind – as why I think he’s got some kind of integrity. I was sitting over in the PINK or the GREEN house (chuckle) over at that end of town .. and some old boy and I were talking about Paul, and he said the weirdest damn thing, knowing I favored Paul,<br /><br />“See the problem with Paul is he just won’t stay bought.” – and in “old boy” parlance I can see this person thought what he said was making sense … to me I thought, “Yup and THAT is why I like him – he WON’T stay bought!”<br /><br />Another words this old boy and his friends had given money to Paul’s campaign and weren’t able to curry the favors they wanted. Now I KNOW that there have been OTHER DA’s and ADA’s here that are NOT like that – so even though FOR ME – having a PRO-OLD BOY DA isn’t necessarily a BAD thing – and in fact have worked VERY WELL with them – on the other hand comes a time when one has to think of what’s right – and having a DA who is ‘friendly’ to a certain segment of the population is NOT a good idea.<br /><br />So on one hand – I hear old boy friends bitching about how “Paul won’t stay bought” – and on the other I see Paul blowing off someone whom I see their name all the time in here as a “Paul string puller” – and for sure Paul was having NONE of the guys BS at that sitting!<br /><br />---------<br /><br />As to your question as to what "evokes a materialistic desire to protect him" (Paul)<br /><br />I'd have to ask you what does he bring out in you that evokes a materialistic desire to attack him?<br /><br />Do you see him as 'Peck's Bad Boy" that you project all that into?<br /><br />I don't see him that much better or worst then Terry - and maybe a little more honest then Worth.<br /><br />------------<br /><br />As to your allegations that I’m one of those who say “Why "give him another chance" - "Oh he just needs some time..."<br /><br />NO WAY – like I say – from what I’ve seen he’s doing fine. When he has BOTH SIDES of Humboldt PISSED at him – I see him as being consummately FAIR. <br /><br />The “old boys” are sitting around the pink or green house saying “he won’t stay bought” and the “new (out to lunch bunch)” is pissed cause they don’t have his ear like YOU’D like to believe they do. Like I say – I’ve seen it – Paul going “Nope I can’t do that” – again and again .. and that person (one of YOUR alleged string pullers) was PISSED – that Paul wouldn’t do what he wanted (and he still hasn’t).<br /><br />Gosh you think that Paul MIGHT be his own man? -- just maybe – and might be doing a good job – as good as any who came before (which with indictments of some pervious law enforcement people wouldn’t be hard I admit.) <br /><br />As to his office people, I do know that I have to fire people in my business, and everyone tells me that I’m wrong and that the business can’t go on with out them, and we do, and stronger. And NOPE I do NOT tell anyone WHY I do it, that so and so had her/his hand in the till, or that inventory was coming up short, on their shift. I can’t ‘prove’ anything so I don’t say anything, but I know how hard it is to be at the top.<br /><br />And though I littlerly LOVED Terry Farmer as a DA I thought it was pretty piss poor and showed little or no class that he didn’t raise a finger to help smooth Paul’s way in. LOTS of people thought that sucked big time!<br /><br />Other then that I think Terry is and was a class act, no matter what anyone says. (Also backed him against Paul BTW: Bet that blows your mind – in fact have a “Terry Farmer for DA” Sign in my office “We know who he is – We know where he stands.” And if you don’t think THAT freaks people out (chuckle) especially the ‘new out to lunch bunch’ <br /><br /><br />At least with Paul and Terry you knew what you were getting, Worth (chuckle) one day he swings one way, the other the next. "Oh I set up the 10 plant guidelines" .<br /><br />Reminds me of how the Russians claimed to invent everything. Paul’s the root of all evil – and is backed by these evil minions – like I say its GREAT fantasy but the reality is he’s got people pissed cause he ‘won’t stay bought’ – in fact last time we talked (Paul and I) he was going on about how he felt EVERYONE hated him pretty equal (paraphrased if you will) … But like I say when Terry took over it was the same Hopla from the DePaulie crowd – and for sure when Roger got elected he was up for Recall because of his wanting to Tax MJ .. he brought that up and they just about strung him up – no blogs around at the time … though … it did happen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-48582640968646020752006-12-03T11:13:00.000-08:002006-12-03T11:13:00.000-08:00So many things to respond to, 11:10.
But for star...So many things to respond to, 11:10.<br /><br />But for starters, I isn't true that salzman wasn't in the office - I got many calls from people who saw him. And he was there getting signatures against the Marina Center during functions such as the kick off.<br /><br />And, as a behind-the-scenes advisor, he doesn't need to be in the office to be having an effect.<br /><br />As for your belief in Paul's high ideals: One of your mistakes is in thinking that what you SEE Paul say, and what Paul actually does are probably diametrically opposed. He'll say Salzman is out while he is on the cell phone with Salzman on a daily basis. He may resent him, nay not even like him, but he hasn't axed him.<br /><br />I suspect you yourself have ideals, and standards, and you believe Paul shares them, you see yourself in the reflective surface of his facade, fooled like so many others.<br /><br />I'll get to some of your other points later. Some I agree with, some I can correct for you, and some I just flat out disagree.<br /><br />But, see if you can tell me what it is about Paul that evokes a maternalistic desire to protect him, excuse his every misdeed, explain it away and perceive any criticism of him as people being out to get the poor little guy. Men and women. Why "give him another chance" - "Oh he just needs some time..."Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-53636657288919552222006-12-02T12:02:00.000-08:002006-12-02T12:02:00.000-08:00Paul as an ingenue. Not someone who has seen him a...Paul as an ingenue. Not someone who has seen him at "work" (admittedly, not easy to do, Keat is more likely to be in the office than the boss). <br /><br />Did the comments of the staff published in the Journal, or the dissection published in the Eye, sound like he's an ingenue? An ingenue might be incompetent, but not all incompetents are ingenues, especially not after 4 years<br /><br />Ingenue suggests innocence. There is nothing innocent about PVG. Manipulative, deceptive, <br />self-centered, ambitious-- anyone think this sounds like Pippy Longstocking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com