Friday, October 26, 2007

Time to fess up, heraldo

I'm all for the concept of anonymous comments, heraldo, but a blog owner is a different story.

And you're not Captain Buhne, just poking fun.

If you are going to talk shit about someone, YOU need to come clean about who YOU are.

I faced the same thing when I decided to start watchpaul. I knew that I would be saying harsh things, and it wouldn't be nice. Therefore I had to be upfront.

It's not that hard. Presumably you have the courage to do it.

(You can discuss it with heraldo here)

136 comments:

  1. As long as anonR stays anonymous,Heraldo should as well.

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  2. Where did you post your name Rose?

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  3. Mark - that is the stupidest thing to say. Do you really think like that always? It's like telling your mom that you don't want to do whats right because other kids don't have to.

    Nah - Heraldo is a chicken shit.

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  4. Where did you post your name Rose?

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  5. "Heraldo is a chicken shit."

    Nope,and neither is anonRmous.

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  6. Well, Mark, you are upfront about who you are. Eric is upfront about who he is, so is Fred, and Joel (Carson Park Ranger) with his moniker intact, Tad is, Greg and Carol are - it doesn't hurt and in some cases enhances their credibility.

    I believe Ryan Hurley would have survived his outing - He's sharp, funny, and alot of fun - though his opinion would be recognized as his opinion and weighed accordingly.

    What is heraldo afraid of?

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  7. Jeez,

    You guys have made me feel bad. In the interest of full disclosure, and because I'm Wollf, not Chikken,

    Love your site.
    Dave

    Rose's name is Rose???

    Wollf bad, Wollf go now.

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  8. Rose,I've posted somewhat of a response to your 12:06 post already on Heraldo's blog.I don't feel like cutting and pasting it here.

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  9. Rose's full name is...

    Did she disclose it or not? I assume so since she is calling out everyone for not already doing so.

    Where is it Rose?

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  10. Is there anyone who doesn't know it? You have posted it on every blog. You usually misspell it though.

    It's no secret. Rose Welsh.

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  11. With an 's', not a 'c' Buettner. :)

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  12. semi-anon-wolf10/26/2007 2:13 PM

    Damm....the mystery is gone. Shucks.

    I was so into solving it.....

    things like:
    Rose Isarose?
    Rose Smelsasete?

    Doesn't matter, by any other name.....

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  13. Mresquan is a jerk ! Every once in a while he makes a little sense and then he goes into his dickhead routine.

    And I'm all for outing the big H.

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  14. Heraldo/s - when it all comes to light we will get to see what a true chicken shit they are.

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  15. I take people more seriously when they identify themselves. I don't usually post anonymous comments, especially not when I'm criticizing someone else. I don't like it when anonymous folks trash on me, so I avoid doing it to others. Being anonymous is sometimes nice when asking questions or making witty or satirical remarks, but generally being open about who you are is the best policy if you want to be taken seriously.

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  16. Leaders at Humboldt Watershed Council and Local Solutions have had a big problem with exposing their true identities in a timely fashion as would befit those who are trying ever so hard to manipulate Humboldt public opinion.

    Since "Heraldo" mirrors the political concerns of these above entities why should it surprise us if "Heraldo" is another case of manipulating identities ala the Salzman syndrome?

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  17. Rose, are you going to demand that Anon-R-Mouse reveal his identity?

    He may have a readership of only three people, but he certainly "talks shit."

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  18. No. Because though Anon.R may not like you, his criticisms are more along the lines of the anonymous comments that I think are vital to the free expression on the blogs.

    I wouldn't have outed Buhne either. He was an equal opportunity torturer, and he was rational.

    Heraldo is different and you know it. Heraldo is much more like a Salzman than a Captain Buhne. He is promoting a particular agenda, promotes smear campaigns against Arkley and others. And while Arkley may seem like fair game to you all, going after a man who has served his community and asked nothing in return, but who now, in seeking re-election to a seat no one gave a damn about until the predatory litigious "Baykeeper" set his sights on the bay, is in the way of that particular agenda, I find despicable.

    Heraldo has every right to voice his opinion. But before people give him any credence as anything other than a propagandist of "Web of Lies' stature, they need to know just who it is that is promoting the shit.

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  19. Oh rose are you seriously teling us that AnonR isn't a smear artist,that's all that blog is,nothing else,there is no other function of that blog.It is ALL smear,nothing else.Everything,from Bravo to Douglas to Larry Glass to Pickering,to CPR,and on and on..

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  20. Rose, you are such a cunt

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  21. Nice job there, alison.

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  22. Did I say "Baykeeper"? That always brings out 8:48. Such a class act.

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  23. reading this thread is funny.....it must suck to be Rose to live in a country where people are allowed to think and say ANYTHING that they want.....

    in America, we can be friends with whom we choose. Heraldo doesn't need Rose's permission to speak, or to be friends with whomever Heraldo wants.

    Rose would like to intimindate everyone who doesn't agree with her. id like to think that its an inferiority complex and not just hatred for the American way.

    Rose, how may states have you been to? How many times have you been to Wash DC? Do you even like many americans? all i hear is negativity coming from you.

    how sad. im sorry for you. i can hear the pain in your writing.

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  24. You're crackin' me up 11:18. Tell me about intimidation after you read this link. Every one of your points is addressed here - I'll be interested to hear your reaction.

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  25. wtf does DC have to do with it?

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  26. rose,
    what was the point of the link? i could care less about salzman, im a right winger. im more concerned about you wanting to out heraldo. is it an inferiority complex or is it a hatred for the american way? ive read your blog for sometime now and have never commented before. as a conservative, i would like to hear some thoughts on free speech from you.......


    by the way, your link didnt address my questions about your travels in the USA or your familiarity with US govt or your love for the American people....

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  27. OK, let's play. I've been to most of the 50 states, drove through Washington DC once, been to Mexico and Canada. I've never been to Disneyland, or Hawaii, and I'd like to spend some time in the Bahamas and Tahiti.

    So - this is related to heraldo, how?

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  28. Rose,if you don't like what Heraldo writes on his blog and are hurt by it don't go there.Heraldo doesn't send out his blog to you or anyone,you make the choice to go there and participate in conversation just like everyone else.

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  29. K. I'll just stick my head in the sand. "Cause I haven't been to Washington DC, or something...

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  30. C'mon, mresquan! Aren't you even CURIOUS?!?

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  31. rose,
    thanks for telling me all about your travels....i was trying to find out about your love of country, or lack of......your posts seem to ooze with hatred for anything that resembles dissent....just an observation



    America, love it or leave it

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  32. What is that phrase about the paint can? Or is it a box of rocks?

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  33. here is why i question rose's insistance that heraldo reveal her/his name......if heraldo reveals her/his name, she/he will be more likley to hold her/his tongue for fear of being retaliated agasint....this is what rose and her american hating friends want...LESS DISCUSSION.......thats what this is all about...stifling FREE SPEECH......must suck to be rose, living in a free county and all

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  34. This is kind of surreal,I'm used to reading about my supposed hatred of everything American on this blog.Now that accusation is being directed at Rose.
    It's interesting though,because despite our wide range of differences on a local or national scale,I'd say Rose and I probably have more love for this country than most people do.

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  35. If going to DC has Anything to do with being a "good American", Rose, you can use my time there on your resume'.

    8:48, you are a classless, cowardly feeb.

    Rose, that cup of coffee offer still stands. Love to see Humboldt again.
    When did the Anonymous family move into town, anyway?

    Wow, there's lots of 'em........Wollf

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  36. It is funny, isn't it. I've said before, mresquan, that we have more in common than we have differences, and I respect your dedication to your cause, adn your willingness to devote time and energy to it.

    Heraldo's fear of saying who he is has nothing to do with me -if he is afraid of his employer retaliating against him, then the threat to his free speech comes from that quarter, not me, it would then be his employer who is opposed to dissent... or, could it be that his "employer" set him up as the anonymous "heraldo" as a tool for that particular message... one can imagine what you'd be saying if it were Arkley paying a blogger... it will be interesting when we finally know the answer.

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  37. Wollf - you mean I can buy your "carbon credits"? Cool. Ya happy, 11:45?

    Coffee, someday, Wollf. Sounds good.

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  38. "one can imagine what you'd be saying if it were Arkley paying a blogger"

    rose, arkley obviosuly pays bloggers. his PR man glazer is most likley the poster Mr.Obvious.....

    not once have i called for anyone to "fess up" to who they are on a blog site.....im more concerned with healthy debate than i am about "outing" people and stifling debate. you obviously feel powerless unless you can personally assault a dissenter. whatever floats your boat, rose.....

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  39. Speaking to Heraldo. Many times Heraldo has slimed or attacked persons posting as annonymous yet you know Heraldo is as Fake as "the Carson Park Ranger". But it seems some know who CPR is.

    Hearaldo has completely removed any evidence of a post that nails him or points out the BS or lies in his posts.

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  40. Which posts? Or do you mean comments?

    Look, knowing who heraldo is isn't going to hurt his ability to voice his opinion, any more than it stops the guy from LittleGreenFootballs, so all you baying hounds worrying about the Constitution crashing down because you know he/she/it/they is a guy in his mother's basement swilling beer in his pjs, or a lawyer in the EPIC stable - it may affect your opinion of his opinion - and that's what he/she/it/they're afraid of.

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  41. "the Constitution crashing down because you know he/she/it/they is a guy in his mother's basement swilling beer in his pjs, or a lawyer in the EPIC stable - it may affect your opinion of his opinion - and that's what he/she/it/they're afraid of."

    rose,
    the constitition protects guys in their mother's basements and EPIC lawyers and even people swilling beer in pjs....DEAL WITH IT!!!!

    and thank you for admitting that you are trying to intimidate heraldo by "outing him. do you always play dirty? seems to be so....


    America,love it or leave it!

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  42. Which one is it - the paint can or the box of rocks?

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  43. Un-Friggin' Believable, you people are.....

    "Anonymous" is acceptable, though not showing very much any courage of conviction when attacking People.

    But could we do some anonymous classification or something so that the thread makes more sense?

    Look, try this:
    9:40 = anonA
    9:45 = anonB
    3:27 = anonC
    Oh, 8:48,you can just be Baboso, we still won't know who you are.

    Et friggin' Cetera, ok?
    Jeezers, I'm gettin' a Headache here, People!

    I've always been partial to "Bag of Hammers.
    Wollf

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  44. its a hypocrate in a paint can throwing rocks at free speech....

    if you are so hurt by the fact the people are allowed to post anonymously, then you shouldn't be participating in this medium...if you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen!

    at the very least, you should be calling for EVERYONE to be "outed".......oh well..just because i am calling you on the fact that you are acting like a hypocrate doesnt mean that i support anyone being outed. even your buddy anonRmousy......

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  45. HEY! Anon 9:20 - when you are done spinning and wiping the spittle from your lips - STOP - and THINK! You're allowed to post here. There's no comment moderation. You're not censored. If you truly had been reading here all along, you would know my stance on anons and free speech and the fact that we, the US are the good guys precisely BECAUSE we allow free speech. There's no need for you to pretend to be a conservative. But geez, calm down.

    And, uh, it's "dumber than a paint can" - OR "dumber than a box of rocks" take your pick.

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  46. i prefer a hypocrate in a paint can throwing rocks at free speech.....

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  47. rose,
    i can understand your anger at having to live in a free country..i dont know how you put up with these people....lets label everyone with tags that denote each others party affiliations too. everyone must be identified!!

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  48. i think that every person in america should have to display what religion they are too. rose is with me on this one.

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  49. should every person have to display what sexual orientation they are in rose's perfect world?

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  50. Off y'er meds again? What happened to your monniker..... "theotherme".........?

    Remember this?

    rose,
    thank you for answering my question regarding salzman and the issue about mailing the stickers. i ahve to say though, politics is a dirty business, you are going to have to deal with that fact if you want a clear perspective on things. people "spinning" things will never go away. "spinning" used to be called "debating".........from a outsiders perspective, it seems like you approach the political process like its a team sport. therefore, everything that doesnt sound right to you is "spin"....remember, this is coming from a person who has never voted for the democratic party........we need to look at issues individually instead of jumping to take sides. normally i would be on your side of things, but in the arkley/glass case, i am amazed that "conservatives" would abandon democracy so fast to serve bully..........sorry,just trying to tell you how its coming across to everyday working joe american, rose...


    theotherme Says:
    September 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pm
    rose? larry isnt allowed to be friends with heraldo? are you the “friend police”?………..take a deep breath and ask yourself why you feel the need to defend the act of bullying a CITY COUNCILMAN……..if you can question yourself that is….

    rose,
    i prefer to stay anonymous, that way i have less fake conservatives threatening to DESTROY me……..

    Yeah, you're the "fake conservatives" nut who feels compelled to defend heraldo.I think I'll call you Heraldo's "Renfield."

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  51. My mistake, Hearaldo has removed "comments" from his blog. Comments that substantially disagree with what he puts out or comments that point out his obvious B.S.

    Heraldo has completely removed comments that pin him down. Heraldo slams anon's when he is just a anon with a blog and a handle.

    Things will start to pickup again once PVG goes forward with his grand jury plans.

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  52. its a free country, heraldo can do what she/he wants on her/his website......

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  53. rose,
    its a free country, ill use whatever monikers i choose.........it must suck to be a fake conservative in a country that has such an incredible amount of freedom of speech......the otherme will return to spread the conservative word!! down with fake conservatives everywhere!! no more kool-aid drinkers like rose allowed!!

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  54. rose,

    EVERY single time that you question someone's right to use their freedom of speech, I WILL CALL YOU ON IT!!!!! so don't bother responding with some smart-ass comment. just tell me your stance on the ISSUE and stop dancing around it....its like pulling teeth with some people!!!

    so again, comment ON THE TOPIC, or don't bother responding. i have no time for people who can't even grasp something as simple as freedom of speech..

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  55. Good. Go away, then, because I have no time for people who so completely misread things.

    Heraldo is afraid of you, not of me. He/she/it/they're afraid you won't value "his" "opinion" once you know who "he" is. Heraldo's afraid to use "his" right to free speech under "his" own name.

    This is a free country and "he" has a right to free speech and that is why the protestations of retaliation are so phony. Hank Sims called it right, 100%.

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  56. rose,
    i dont value heraldo's opinions, only his blogsite...the fact that you are trying to alter people's opinions about another person only makes it more apparent that you are a hateful being who cant talk issues.....are you jealous because heraldo's website is so much more read by the general public? is it like i said earlier, just a simple case of an inferiority complex?

    again, i have a sinking suspicion that you hate this country and all that it stands for.....

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  57. It would be fine if both AnonRmous and Heraldo decided to use their own names,but if not,that's there choice,and their right.
    Now where Heraldo should be rightfully concerned about doing so is in the fact that those calling for Heraldo to out him/herself aren't demanding the same thing of others who express different viewpoints.That's personal,and needs to be considered.
    Hank at least has called for Heraldo,Anonrmous,and other bloggers to use their names.That's much more reasonable than those who think that Heraldo is the only one who should.
    And it's totally discriminatory only calling for one person to do something amongst a group of many others who practice the same thing,and that is an attack on one's right to free speech.

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  58. maybe i should go on a campaign to change people's opinion about rose.........then she will be discredited and her voice wont count...........thats the amerikkkan way, right?

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  59. The only one talking about discrediting "heraldo" is you, Renfield.

    It is entirely possible that his opinion would carry more weight once you know who "he" is. The same holds true for all bloggers. Carson Park Ranger's opinion isn't harmed at all by people knowing who he is. He's a great guy. We don't agree on much of anything. I'm sure he will tell you life is much easier being upfront than trying to hide, and most people will also agree that you are more civil if you are not hiding.

    It's an argument that is apparently over your head

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  60. Steven Glaizer told me that Rose is a cunt

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  61. hiding? posting on a blog is HIDING? that makes no sense whatsoever.......

    now about the free speech "argument" being over my head......what about FREE SPEECH am i missing? qoute the constitution only. i could care less what some other bloggers do. its a free country i want to hear you address FREE SPEECH for once.....if you can that is

    you seem to dance around the topic as you try to limit people's freedom of speech...

    according to your logic here, all news sources should be identified, all voters should be identified, all party members identified, all religious people identified.....

    am i missing something here? or is this just your WISH to know? if so, dont be so dramatic about it. heraldo will tell you if she feels like it...its a free country, remember?

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  62. :) I thought you said you had no time for this...

    Jeff?

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  63. Wasn't the Original Post simply saying that "if you're going to talk Shi-ite about someone", it carries more weight if you're willing to back up your Opinion with your name?

    Kinda makes sense to me.

    Like the cowardly punk that in his Passive-Agressive fury, slashes your tires and runs away.

    You're stuck with the aggravation, and he feels some sort of punk-a$$ vindication.....all the while not having the Honor to address the issue Face (known), to Face (known).

    Kinda like leaving an "anonymous" comment calling a Lady a c%&*T.

    You are a Punk.
    62 mostly Bravo-Sierra comments.

    My H/T to the Commenters with names attached.

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  64. ummm.....howlsatmoon is as good as anonymous......why didnt you post your full name? isnt that your point? hypocrates crack me up....

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  65. this thread is SO SO SO ironic. not ONE person has posted their name, first and last, on this thread......

    a thread about anonymous posts not being allowed is filled with 100% anonymous posts!!!!!!

    priceless

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  66. lets let rose have her way. lets make people state what party they belong to on blogsites. that way, we know where everyone is coming from. next, every person shall be required to state what religion, if any, they belong to. next, every person stall state, job title, income level, and marital status.......

    that way, rose wont have to talk issues. she will be able to stereotype everyone and avoid any mention of issues.

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  67. No, 1:12, that's Not the point. The Owner of this Blog knows my identity.

    Passive-aggressive douches like yourself are not privy to it. I don't like parking my truck in the garage to protect it from your Manly Keying.

    1:14, yup, Irony is served, Hot off the Grill at Rose's place today.

    1:18.....ok, wanna join me? Semi-lapsed Catholic, Special Operations Manager, $100k+, Divorcing.....Stereotype away, Miss Rose.

    Finally, I gotta go for a run, It's Hypocrite!

    douche.
    Wollf

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  68. What is dumber than a box of rocks? I honestly didn't think it was possible.

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  69. That was for you 1:18/theotherme/fillinthe__________).

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  70. still, no one posts their names........and no one should be forced to...

    rose, you can call me dumb all day long. i dont have an inferiority complex like youself, so i can laugh it off as sh*t talking....... even if i was dumb, it wouldnt change the fact that you are asking for ONE person to "come out", while you let all others get a free pass.......whats up with that? will you EVER address a question directly? or will you continue to try to put me down? be human......

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  71. heraldo's site isnt working as of 3:07 on sunday afternoon....did your devious plan work rose? congratulations, you are better at shutting down free speech than i will ever hope to be....

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  72. Oh, balderdash, his site is working perfectly fine.

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  73. No need demanding party aff's. We can tell by the comments. I liked the post on another thread that say's."not sure if I'm a coward or just PW'd." "I blog annon so my wife won't find out I'm not surfing porn like a real man". Priceless.

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  74. Whats dummer than a box of rocks? O.J.and a sack of hammers.

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  75. Jeez Rose - looks like you got under Mr. H's skin, Sterling-Nichols' skin, Sleazan's and probably King's, Miller and Lovelace's all in one fell swoop.

    You have one lunatic here in these comments that can't spell and also can't cope.

    Keep it up...I am LMAOROTFLOL.

    And Heraldo - cluck, cluck, cluck you chicken shit. No H will never come out and if someone does it will be a front.

    No, but H will be outed. hehehehehehe!

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  76. notso anonymous10/29/2007 3:56 PM

    Did I misspell "douche"?

    Oh bother

    "that W guy"

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  77. Well if you are the same as that other anon - you mispelled about everything.

    What's a "hypocrate?" 1:12.

    No, Rose, you evidently yanked H's little chain and all of his ugly orks are out to slay you.

    I say that you, me and one other (maybe Howlsatmoon) go slay some Ork!

    But unlike Lord of the Rings, these Orks are all chickenshit - and they use Heraldo (the king chickenshit) as their front guy. How absolutely perfect.

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  78. Heraldo is my front guy,for sure.I have a shrine dedicated to Heraldo.

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  79. No doubt that Rose is a cunt

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  80. robin shelley said...

    Ah, "cunt". What a great word! Oh, I know it's supposed to be a shockingly vulgar & derogatory term but its ancient etymology says otherwise as does current modern feminist thinking. After all, the vagina (as it's known in polite company) is such a warm & wonderfully powerful & pleasurable thing that history is full of examples of men who have wrecked their lives, minds & careers just trying to get some. The vagina ranks right up there with money, power & status! It is usually the wrecked or rejected men who can't quite attain or achieve the goals they set for themselves who resort to such colorless descriptions of what is so highly prized & sought after by their gender. Some women might take offense at the word but smart women snicker to themselves because they know it speaks volumes more about the speaker than it does about them: she's hurt or scared him somehow.
    You go, Rose, you...!

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  81. 9:39, I'm afraid that you have annoyed me to the end of my patience.

    You sorry little cowardly needledicked twit. Shut off your computer and go to bed. If your momma knew that you were up this late and using language like you are, she'd tafe away your x-box.

    You talk like that in public, you little feeb, and a Man of Honor is around, you won't be able to type for quite a while.

    Better yet, why don't you join a Craig's list chat on teenaged, unimaginative vulgarity. You'll shine! They'll think you're the BMOC that you've never been and never will be.

    Jesus, just Go A-Effing-Way!
    Sorry, Rose.
    Sorry, 4:13, was that Your D'ork?

    Wollf

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  82. "some women may take offense at the word....."

    Yup, Unfortunately, I dare say that ALL Men of Honor take offense at that word, and at the Coward who uses it.

    I need some ice cream.
    Wollf

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  83. Ahh, this is nothin' Wollf - he posted some 415 identical comments one night. He's the one you guys can all blame for having to type those stupid letters before you can send your comment.

    I thought he was sleeping it off, but looks like somethin' woke 'im up. tsk tsk.

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  84. You still have that Coastie Air Station out on Humboldt Bay?

    I'm gettin' a road trip,sans road, idea in this silly lil' Wolffie head o' mine....

    Wollf

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  85. robin shelley10/29/2007 11:09 PM

    Seems contradictory to me when someone writing here under the cover of anonymity accuses Rose of hating America, hating dissention, assaulting dissenters, intimidation, avoiding issues, being a hypocrite, having an inferiority complex, stereotyping, questions her knowledge of U.S. government AND calls her a "Kool-Aid drinker", all the while espousing the 1st Amendment & finishes up with "America, love it or leave it" - I don't know whether to laugh or cry! But I do know that if I were a member of the Anonymous Family, I would be rallying everyone together to discuss putting this one up for adoption.

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  86. robin shelley10/29/2007 11:14 PM

    Wow! Quoted. How flattering. Thanks, 10:17!

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  87. The irony of talking about Kool-Aid drinkers, eh, Robin... they must be compensating for Gallegos bringing the mastermind of the Kool-Aid vat into the DA's office - none other than the second in command right hand man to Jim Jones - the one who plotted to poison the water supply of Washington DC, Tim Stoen, who proved that he had not changed.

    Blind, these Orks, I tell ya. The molten lava that was poured into their skulls destroys all capacity to reason.

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  88. robin shelley10/29/2007 11:30 PM

    I should say so!

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  89. The short list on the asshole is:

    Salzman
    Miller
    Sterling-Nichols
    King
    Glass


    I still think we should get togethe Rose and slay some Orks!

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  90. Kool-aid.

    Little feebs.

    Orks.

    Slay.

    Asshole list.

    This is one thoughtful conversation.

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  91. Well Kevin - you are right to point out the degeneration of the conversation. Can't help but wonder why Heraldo won't just come clean and why his supporters are so threatened by Rose pointing out the fact that he is a coward.

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  92. Why won't anonR just come clean as well?And why is it okay for him to hide behind an alias,and not Heraldo?Unfortunately,I know the answer.

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  93. Ok Mark, tell us.

    Frankly, I see Heraldo and AnonR as much different. Heraldo is clearly a political hack who spreads disinformation. AnonR pokes at everyone. But, your argument is sort of lame as it really comes down to Heraldo (and you) saying, just because others do it, it is ok if I do. That never worked with my mother or father.

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  94. The attempt at outing Heraldo as Larry Glass wasn't poking fun at everyone.And if he's even handed,where was the post about "poking fun" at Rob Arkley?
    Regardless of all of it,this argument about people outing themselves because other(ironically,mostly anonymous folks who also spread some sort of information) is getting incredibly old.AnonR,Heraldo,Rose,Fred,Eric,etc...can run their blogs as they please,and bloggers can post as they please,it's free speech,like it or not.

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  95. You do see the difference between Fred, Eric and I, though, Mark? You use a moniker, yet we know who you are, does that affect your credibility? No. It adds to it. Despite our disagreements, we, well, okay - I know and like you. Carson Park Ranger uses a moniker, same deal. Many, many others. I know you are smart enough to see the difference.

    And you're no Ork. You're a true believer, but you're no Ork.

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  96. Free speech? Really Mark?

    First Free Speech applies to the government. It is not a guarantee between people.

    Second, Heraldo censoring folks and changing their posts is not free speech. It is despicable.

    If you think that the argument is old, it is only old because Heraldo is a major chickenshit. When Heraldo and all of its contributors come out then the topic can be put to rest. Until then, read another set of posts if this is boring.

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  97. Rose, cupcake, you and that bag of assholes that support you have more in common than body temperature I.Q.s.

    Ya stink!

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  98. You post your name, Rose, and you have less than zero credibility. This is all about somebody telling you that your head was up your ass.

    You need more petroleum jelly to sooth the pain of your jealousy.

    Heraldo is just smarter than you and your friends, Cupcake.

    You should set up a full spectrum light next to your computer. You are so depressed.

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  99. howlsatmoon, good name, lunatic!

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  100. i agree, this whole post is about jealousy. i feel bad for rose. im sure shes a nice enough person.

    jealousy will cloud one's respect for free speech. it happens to the best of us....

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  101. Yep. I have no credibility? I'm crushed. Eh - I was going to add that Eric and Fred are nice, and have happy topics. I don't - so I'm more like heraldo - maybe I should have hidden in the shadows. Coulda been fun, dang!

    When did you wake up? Don't you have anything to do? This is hilarious.

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  102. Senator Rose, you are no Heraldo!

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  103. lets recap:

    according to rose(and a few anonymous others), people who stand up for free speech are dumb, orks, chickenshits, assholes, politcal hacks, ect.....

    according to rose, good americans talk of slaying fellow americans for having dissenting opinions.

    rose, keep on hating america....the last of your credibility is gone with me after this.

    america, love it or leave it.....

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  104. this is the most posts that rose has ever gotten on a thread and she's acting like a nazi on it!!!!

    priceless

    rose, people READ these comments. have you no shame?

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  105. maybe rose can act like a nazi because "orkslayers" have her back...ever think of that?

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  106. maybe we should rename the EPD the "orkslayers"......it has a certain ring to it, doesnt it?

    very fitting

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  107. Blueberry cupcakes are my favorite.

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  108. LOL, mresquan!

    I think the guy above you is used to Instant Messenger - that's why he puts each thought in a new comment bubble - don't you?

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  109. Rose and her friends live in a world where the sun never shines. Try the full spectrum lights, Rose, It will improve your outlook, and bring sanity back into your life. Life doesn't have to be dreary and dark behind the redwood curtain.

    And get some new enablers.

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  110. here is more talk on rose's quest to end free speech

    http://eurekastandard.blogspot.com

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  111. rose,
    using "instant messenger" services was legal the last time i checked.

    rose, as much as you may hate the fact, america embraces FREE SPEECH!!!!

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  112. Rose, thy name is insanity.

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  113. Rose, Nice group of fans you have. Just dropped in because I noticed the inordinately high number of posts.

    How wonderful to have such dedicated readers. And GREAT for your Blog ratings!!

    One "Tiny" deductive observation, and "rude" anonymous, please tell me if I'm wrong.....it's a "hobby" of mine.....

    You blast off a quick series of three to four IMs, and then disappear for almost exactly 20 minutes each time.

    Almost routine, hmmmm, Ok, my friend....Caucasian male, late 20's, assistant manager in a place where you've got a real short break Every 20 minutes.

    I'm thinking Assistant Manager, IHOP, Denny's...just about Has to be in the food service industry, 12 bucks an hour, had to move back in with Mom after a brief stint in Community College.

    Slightly overweight, longish, slightly receding hair.......

    How'd I do? Gosh I love this game, but it sort of brings me down because even though it's Fun to figure out, it's sad.

    Because it must Really Suck to be you.

    Notso

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  114. notso,
    are you implying that ugly people with bad jobs shouldn't enjoy free speech like everyone else?

    lol,nice try


    all of rose's friends are united in their hatred of american free speech!!!

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  115. Oh No, my goodness, you've misunderstood me! I apologize, "rude" anon.

    I believe with Every bit of my Soul that ugly people with bad jobs should speak out!

    I believe that your voice should be lifted to the Heavens with your message of Love and Patriotism.

    I believe that I'm pleased that I got two items right in my "profile".

    Although, I didn't actually say "ugly".

    Thanks for the tip.
    Notso

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  116. why are you ASSuming that you got any items right in your profile?...not that it matters. people make asses of themselves all the time, im used to it. at least you are anonymous when you make an ass out of yourself.

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  117. Great job Rose. You know you're hitting home when they can't keep from calling you a %#*^. Low IQ's usually go that route. It's easier than a thoughtfull responce. I would like to see the short asshole list expanded and discussed a bit more.

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  118. That was bag of assholes, escapee.

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  119. So "anonymous" - you've been visiting Carson Park Ranger's site - why don't you post a few of these comments over there. See how long they last. You know he views the job of deleting comments like yours as picking up the dog droppings on the lawn. Distasteful, but necessary.

    He has a point.

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  120. rose,
    i have posted on CPR's thread regarding your hatred of free speech. looks like all the posters agree with me that you are being a hypocrite in trying to "out" everyone that you dont like.

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  121. Yeah, but did you try ALL of your comments over there - you "fake conservative," you? I'll have to ASK CPR.

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  122. did i try all of my comments? what does that mean?

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  123. Rose - I think Salzman and his minions have had their cages rattled. Evidently, Heraldo being outed is scaring the shit out of them. Keep it up girl.

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  124. Rose, I think someone pissed in your pool.

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  125. Oh shut up Richard. You really are a nastly little man.

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  126. There is no P in this ool!

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  127. Avalon Doorman11/07/2007 6:10 PM

    "Rose - I think Salzman and his minions have had their cages rattled. Evidently, Heraldo being outed is scaring the shit out of them. Keep it up girl."

    And one day it will happen. Someone will let it slip in conversation.

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  128. It will happen - and then we'll evaluate his/her/she/it's opinion based on whoever it is. Who knows? Maybe it'll be someone we look up to, and we'll say, "WoW! We should really put extra value on heraldo's words!" Or - not.

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  129. Why would Heraldo be intimidated by you raving paranoids?

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  130. Y'idiot - it's not us he's worried about. It's YOU.

    It's what you will think once you know it is him/he/her/she/it/they....

    Well, maybe not YOU because YOU may already know who it is... but others whose opinons "he" values....

    There's been alotta speculation that heraldo might not be a "he" at all....

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  131. One can only participate in frenzied speculation, I suppose.

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  132. That's half the fun. But it is more idle than frenzied, LOL.

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  133. It's like a parlor game - Mrs. Peacock, in the library with the laptop...

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  134. You are a dark smith of irony, Rose.

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  135. LOL. NO. I am the light. Come back to the light.

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