Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Way to get rid of invasive species

Pot goes up in smoke in wildfire above L.A.

13 comments:

Stephen said...

Oh, and wine grapes are not? And alcohol isn't a thousand times more responsible for criminal behavior than pot? Why continue the prejudice?

Anonymous said...

I don't see wine growers setting booby traps and stockpiling automatic weapons. I don't see wine growers spreading rat poison in our creeks. I don't see wine growers blocking our roads with locked gates patrolled by armed thugs.

We've been driven out of our hills by narco-terrorists.

Stephen said...

They don't have to do those things, silly, because no one's threatening to put wine growers in jail. Stick to the health statistics and lay off the prejudice against marijuana and fully legalize it which will put an end to all the clandestine growing.

Anonymous said...

"They don't have to do those things, silly, because no one's threatening to put wine growers in jail."

So that's why the pot growers are dumping rat poison in our creeks!

kushboldt said...

"I don't see wine growers setting booby traps and stockpiling automatic weapons. I don't see wine growers spreading rat poison in our creeks. I don't see wine growers blocking our roads with locked gates patrolled by armed thugs."

During the years of alcohol prohibition, this is exactly how bootleggers acted.

You cannot decouple prohibition and this type of damaging activity. Being angry about the problems does not solve them, it only creates a problem for yourself. Furthermore, advocating the cause of the problems does not solve them, either. What I mean is, advocating enforcement as a way to get growers out of remote areas is illogical as it is enforcement which initially pushed growers into remote areas.

Environments with scarce water, alkaline soil, black rats, and roving thieves are not in any way ideal for cannabis flower production. This is equivalent to supposing that people smuggle gold bars in their rectum due to it being a more convenient storage compartment than a suitcase.

Anonymous said...

Aha! The BIG POT apologists are here!

Nothing can be blamed on the growers. Society made them wreck society. Etc.

kushboldt said...

Apologetics is usually used in reference to faith-based arguments. For instance, Christian apologists defend the belief in Jesus as not being irrational.

"Big Pot" is not a conceptual or faith-based subject that needs any sort of defense. Additionally, nobody is being silenced for questioning any belief here. You are misusing the term "apologist."

If you meant defending the actions of people who dump rat poison, nobody is defending them. My message is that pushing activity further to the fringes of society will only result in activity more problematic than what existed before. For instance, diesel fuel spills in creeks are a example of this sort of escalation.

Stephen said...

Simple solution. Full legalization which will stop illegal grows and all the anti-social, anti-environmental activity that goes along with producing a product a great many people want but aren't allowed to have. Reviewing the reasons why Prohibition failed should be mandatory reading for those still trying to trash pot growers without backing the simple remedy--full legalization.

mresquan said...

"I don't see wine growers setting booby traps and stockpiling automatic weapons. I don't see wine growers spreading rat poison in our creeks. I don't see wine growers blocking our roads with locked gates patrolled by armed thugs.

We've been driven out of our hills by narco-terrorists."

If alcohol were illegal you certainly would.

Anonymous said...

My message is that pushing activity further to the fringes of society will only result in activity more problematic than what existed before.

this concept is very interesting, especially if you apply to other crimes. does it work with DUI's? What about robbery? Murder?

ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ said...

Clearly 7:15 AM does not understand the difference between mala en se and mala prohibita. As for "stockpiling automatic weapons"; I would venture to say that there are no class III machine guns in these "stockpiles" or photos would be plastered all over the front pages of the local outlets that pass for the "media".

Anonymous said...

Actually, the sound of automatic weapons fire is fairly common in our hills. The growers learn to convert automatic weapons to full-automatic on gun websites. Then they spray bullets around night and day. Rapid fire burst are particularly common late at night when the moon is full--and their paranoia is in full flower.

I don't know if anyone has been caught with a machine gun yet, but believe me they are all over the hills.

Stephen said...

The sound of gunfire heard almost daily in the hills where I lived in SoHum way back definitely had its contribution to my decision to leave the homesteading life. I've watched deer respond to these practice gunshots, watched them literally cringe with fear and wait to see if the shots mean hunters coming their way. There are conscientious homesteaders in Humboldt County but the majority? I dunno..