Wednesday, October 29, 2014

Money and crying poor...

I'm a little sick of the ads claiming Measure Z's tax increase will bring about 'more effective' prosecutions - REALLY? And how is that?

No one has fixed the fundamental problem at the DA's Office, don't lie.

Then there's this:

County to pay $700 one time money to employees instead of pay raise; Will Measure Z be used for public safety or for union contracts? - John Chiv/Words Worth

Seems to me, the one thing the Supervisors could do - and have not done, as far as we know - is stand up to the state, refuse to give the County's money to the state, demand that the County be allowed to keep its money rather than have it doled back, pennies on the dollar, in the form of grants. That stand should be taken before ANY attempt to charge people more, when it is just going to go down the rathole.

Solve the fundamental problems first.

Just say NO.

18 comments:

  1. For that matter, no on measure Q as well. Do you realize that over 20 percent of the funds generated from that measure goes to pay for the general fund administrative costs too. So that money is not being spent 100 percent on fire and police services.

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  2. It all comes down to which side gets their base out on election day.

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  3. LOL, Jon, you better watch your back - I think you just said Richard Salzman endorses the Teabagger perspective. OH My Gawd.

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    1. Teabagger Richard with his cuckold groupies. Sounds right up Richard's alley.

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    2. So you attribute a person's political leanings to a particular type of group sex? Well aren't you just a bundle of non-intelligent joy.

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  4. Well, sometimes politics makes strange bedfellows. I have had a lot of discussions around town, and I know of no one who is supporting Measure Z. There are a lot of liberals who are deeply opposed to it, and yes, as LJ points out so are the Teabaggers in the County. (They even are airing an ad on liberal media!) So Measure Z is going down to defeat. It will not pass, because of that odd coalition. Not the first time that will happen in politics and not the last either.

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    1. I am curious to see if the same liberals are opposed to Measure Q?

      Why such opposition to Z? If conservatives and liberals are opposed for the same reason, odd is an apt word to describe the coalition.

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  5. Imagine the political spectrum, Rose, as a circle, doubling back on itself. If the Tea Party or Fred were to lose some of their ideology, they'd see how much there is to agree with many progressives.

    Z is one example.

    I think the more important example is the caution against power. The Tea Party was right to be afraid of the private/public power demonstrated at the end of the Bush Administration that rewarded the financial industry by bailing them out with public funds. Unfortunately, they all landed on the anti-government bandwagon missing the real story of the melt-down - the power of our modern financial sector to control our public sector to their benefit - even when their over-reach caused or at the very least inflamed the economic disaster.

    Don't miss the big story here though - Conservatives are all about talking down the need to fund government, but when in power they will. Their rhetoric is misleading - what they should be saying is the following..

    "To be honest is we believe in taxes, we just don't want to tax the job creators. Why? because they are awesome and they are the reason I have this job - check out my 460 if you have any questions. Thank you - have a nice Halloween" - Rex

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    1. So this is not a personal attack but pointing out a fact about the Bergel bankruptcy is? Typical libtard double standard.

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    2. double standard? jon11/01/2014 5:45 AM

      Yes - This is not about Rex's personal life. It is a character of Rex's public policy contradictions. I'm being sincere - do you see the difference. I'd really like to have this conversation - it's really important. Exactly where I'm failing on this I'd like to know.

      Also, how is "tard" OK in your mind?

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    3. Why should we take your word that Rex said those words?

      Double standard jon is a nice moniker for you. Way better than libtard jon.

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    4. Rex did not say those words. The sentence and paragraph that preceded that should have been a clue.

      Those words were my creation trying to approximate how Rex might honestly address the contradiction of his support of regressive taxes on one hand, but his rhetorical and political stance against taxes and government when it's time to get elected.

      It's faux populism and it's how conservatives get elected in Humboldt.

      It's clear there won't be a conversation about public v private. That's a same.

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  6. We have two great candidates challenging Chet and Mike this Tuesday. Kim Bergel and Natalie Arroyo. I’m about to challenge the conservatives on their business first principles. This should not be misconstrued that the candidates Democrats and I support do not support local business, they do and we do. Democrats simply understand that government priorities do not 100% overlap with private interests. In sum, Democrats, Kim and Natalie are pro-business AND pro-government (or as also known, community)

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  7. 7:22 - I'm for Q. I can be against Z because of examples of the supervisors cutting taxes such as development fees. They created their own disaster.

    On Q, Linda has told me she would not want to be on the Council if it doesn't pass. I hate regressive taxes, but I'm willing to do it in this case. People I trust like Linda, Natalie, and Kim are for it so I'm for it.

    A desperate situation calls for a temporary desperate fix. Hopefully candidates like the one above will take the time to find ways to tax more appropriately than a sales tax going forward so we ask those that can most afford it to fund our community leadership instead of those who can least afford it.

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    1. Q is yet another tax we do not need and if it gets rid of Linda Atkins, even better.

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  8. btw, very creepily, that 6:34 post was not from me. That was cut and past from a post I made this am and not attributed to me.

    Very creepy especially since I was posting at the same time.

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  9. Measure Q and Z are unnecessary taxes that we should not have to pay. If county and city can not allocate their general funds appropriately, maybe we need to look at who are in charge. Both these government bodies are fat. Both have expanded departments unnecessarily. These Measures Q and Z will not help prosecution or help find crime because as long as we have to deal with the prison re-alignment problems, folks that are arrested will get released due to lack of space in the jails. Humboldt County save your money and put it where it would do the most benefit. Helping increase our basic living hour wage. What we pay folks right now for minimum wage is shameful. They can not live off that wage. If you do not believe it. You try living of that wage.

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  10. Come on people. Do the math. The City wants measure Q to pass so that we the taxpayers get to pay for more services that the city should be paying. If they can't afford to then we need to work with want is affordable. This is not a temporary tax as we have found because the city EPD has become dependent on the "temporary " taxes to fund their staff, overtime, and toys. Also, the council has been pushing this measure down our throat because it will also pay for staff in other departments who are normally paid from General Fund dollars with the 29 percent extra funds generated from Measure Q. If the city can not balance its budget without coming to the tax payers every 5 years, then we need to seriously look at who in top management and city council is making these decisions. Also, I would like to know what the EPD and fire departments plan is to wean themselves off the measure Q money since it was supposed to be temporary.

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