Considering that two groups dedicated to killing him have been busted in the past couple of months, and that you have McCain supporters advocating assassination right on video, I'd say that photo ID is warranted.
Eric - bite me. That is absolutely stupid. I mean absolutely stupid. You're saying that because 2 nut case young men with no ability or power to carry out a very criminal idea is a "group dedicated at killing him?" Christ man, use your brain cells, quit making excuses. Have you totallylost your mind when drank the koolaid.
btw - Rose, I do get the irony and its pretty funny!
And Eric, please, no more stupid excuses - they make you sound silly.
Eric - bite me. That is absolutely stupid. I mean absolutely stupid. You're saying that because 2 nut case young men with no ability or power to carry out a very criminal idea is a "group dedicated at killing him?"
Yes, the secret service take those threats very seriously, and for good reason. If we believe the official account of Kennedy's killing, it was just one guy. King too.
And this is the second time. Plus, by Super Tuesday Obama had received more death threats than all of the other candidates combined. He was the ONLY primary candidate who required Secret Service detail from the beginning of his campaign in May of 2007.
I'll track them down, but there have been stories that certain people with the Secret Service are very worried about it, particularly the volume. Maybe only one in a thousand is serious. But that's enough.
The SS has also reportedly been frustrated with Obama who has a way of charging into crowds and shaking hands before they can secure him.
Maybe they can get a professorship a few years from now - maybe they can host an up and coming candidates coming out party at their house and usher in a new world order.
Plots to kill people, eh? Rather like Obama's buddy Ayres.
You're upset about one but not the other. People actually were killed by the Weather Underground, Eric.
Look. Those little punks ought to be caught, jailed, prosecuted, and maybe get the death penalty. The point I keep making to you - as President, Barack has to be able to do that, NOT HAVE BBQs at the guy's homes.
Shame! That was such an ugly accusation. Rarely have I ever read anything so despicable. How could you even consider Eric would be ok with them killing cops. It doesn't even bolster your argument. It was hateful. Yet you put it right out there for everyone to see and signed your name on it. What is wrong with you? Have you no decency? You should apologize and not make excuses. You meant what you said, but you will deny it. You have been caught out to many times, Rose. Shame on you!
Really? I think excusing away what Ayres did, saying 'oh, it was 30 years ago... he's now a respected member of the community... it's all ok... and besides, he's just a guy in the neighborhood..." THAT is despicable.
I want Eric to THINK!
Imagine 30 years from now - should we be excusing away these guys? And what they planned to do? NO. Not any more than you can excuse away the Columbine murderers.
Ayres was part of a MURDEROUS group - they BOMBED people here in this country.
And with breathless hyperbole you conclude that Obama is a terrorist sympathizer and Eric Kirk is a cop hater. Let me tell you what I think, Rose. Eric Kirk could out think you in his sleep. And if integrity has value, Eric has enough of it banked that he could retire. On the other hand, you don't have enough of that kind of collateral to secure a short term loan - at any rate of interest.
No. And this is just another example of premeditated hate speech calculated to agitate the limbic system and over-ride the mind. You use it like a club. And you are consistent. And you are quite aware of what you are doing.
In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.
Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."
Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:
"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
Ayres: 'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'
Thank you Rose. Now as for you Dreadful Anonymous, you are a complete jerk and have your priorities all screwed up. Ayers and his galpal are murderers, hatemongers, cop killers and how you defend them is SICKENING.
1969 huh? Well that makes it relevant to this discussion. Thank you Rose for how you smear the reputations of decent people that stand in the way of your republican message of hate. Now, as for you Adam - why don't you go get laid by a real woman? You will find it much more satisfying than the funky butt lovin' you are getting from Rose. You might even get some tenderness in the bargain. Who knows, you might learn to give some back.
No, but you will still be using the words of terrorists to smear decent people 30 years from now if you aren't locked up first. That makes you a terrorist. You are using hate speech to appeal to the baser instincts of those who do not think for themselves. You are a second rate terrorist fanning the flame of hatred. I want murdering bastards in jail. I think you are no better than the leader of a lynch mob. I think you should be in a straight jacket and put away before you instigate violence toward those you have a problem with. If President Obama ever visits Humboldt County, I hope the secret service has you locked up two weeks ahead of time and then not release you until two weeks after he is gone.
That has been the practice in the US for at least 25 years if not since the 60s. It is a good practice. It is for the protection of our President. You throw that term fascist around like you think you know its meaning. You are a terrorist, Rose, and you should be cooling down your rhetoric behind bars.
Dreadful Anon - you really are an idiot. And pray tell us oh dense one, what "crime" has Rose committed by informing people of facts upon which they can draw their own opinions. And how do you define terrorist DA.
DA = dreadful anonymous also stands for district attorney and dumb ass
Which one/s are you dreadful?
I would post the 100 or so definitions of terrorist for you DA, but you are too entrenched to understand any of them.
It does beg the question - what IS the Secret Service/FBI/CIA going to do about the new President's buddies - when he wants to have the terrorists in for dinner - Ayres, Dohrn, Wright, Kalidi, Farrakhan et al... how many more are there?
See - those are the people who should never be allowed NEAR a President. And you are going to hand the keys to the White House over to the killers.
Since all the people you just mentioned are free law abiding citizens of the USA. Law enforcement has no issue with them. I should think that they would be much more interested in the white supremest hate stoking rhetoric you are publishing here. You should be more careful. Signing your name to this crap is not a very good idea. Maybe you should post under an anonymous pseudonym. Terror Bitch comes to mind. Actually, I thought of another, first. Terror C---. It denotes terror in both of its meanings and - I think - describes you - gives you symmetry and dimensionality in as few words as possible. No need to thank me. But, consider it my gift to you.
You cannot link Ayres and Obama at the level you are attempting. Oh, Adam will go along with you and maybe some other extremely damaged psyches, but that is about all. You are not stupid. You will vote for McCain/Palin because of your selfishness and your deep-seated antipathy toward everyone that is living below the level of your achieved living standard. It is your lack of conscience that allows you to make the choices you make. Your behavior here more closely matches that of Ayers and his wife of '69 than anything you can attach to Obama today. Ayers of today is a very much finer person than you aspire to be. Your boy Adam is a fine example of the low intelligence that is susceptible to the hateful crap you're putting out for general consumption. But it serves your purpose - ugly as it is.
Take my advice, Rose, get a pseudonym. Oh, by the way, is Adam your pseudonym? Probably not.
If Ayres broke the law and served his time and now is a college professor and volunteering his spare time, energy and expertise to better his community, he has already redeemed himself in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of his community.
How do you plan to redeem yourself after you have served time in prison for the crime of hate you are committing by telling complete fabrications and rousing the rabble to a fever pitch at a time when our soon to be new President is already in more danger for his life than any other US President in our nation's 232 year history?
Considering that two groups dedicated to killing him have been busted in the past couple of months, and that you have McCain supporters advocating assassination right on video, I'd say that photo ID is warranted.
ReplyDeleteEric - bite me. That is absolutely stupid. I mean absolutely stupid. You're saying that because 2 nut case young men with no ability or power to carry out a very criminal idea is a "group dedicated at killing him?" Christ man, use your brain cells, quit making excuses. Have you totallylost your mind when drank the koolaid.
ReplyDeletebtw - Rose, I do get the irony and its pretty funny!
And Eric, please, no more stupid excuses - they make you sound silly.
That was really ugly. That this human brain stem can type is remarkable. How does he do it?
ReplyDeleteEric - bite me. That is absolutely stupid. I mean absolutely stupid. You're saying that because 2 nut case young men with no ability or power to carry out a very criminal idea is a "group dedicated at killing him?"
ReplyDeleteYes, the secret service take those threats very seriously, and for good reason. If we believe the official account of Kennedy's killing, it was just one guy. King too.
And this is the second time. Plus, by Super Tuesday Obama had received more death threats than all of the other candidates combined. He was the ONLY primary candidate who required Secret Service detail from the beginning of his campaign in May of 2007.
There have been arrests.
I'll track them down, but there have been stories that certain people with the Secret Service are very worried about it, particularly the volume. Maybe only one in a thousand is serious. But that's enough.
The SS has also reportedly been frustrated with Obama who has a way of charging into crowds and shaking hands before they can secure him.
It's not a joke. We could lose him.
Young terrorists, aren't they, Eric?
ReplyDeleteMaybe they can get a professorship a few years from now - maybe they can host an up and coming candidates coming out party at their house and usher in a new world order.
Plots to kill people, eh? Rather like Obama's buddy Ayres.
You're upset about one but not the other. People actually were killed by the Weather Underground, Eric.
Look. Those little punks ought to be caught, jailed, prosecuted, and maybe get the death penalty. The point I keep making to you - as President, Barack has to be able to do that, NOT HAVE BBQs at the guy's homes.
Maybe you're just ok with them killing cops, or rich white guys who deserve it.
ReplyDeleteI don't get you, Eric.
Shame! That was such an ugly accusation. Rarely have I ever read anything so despicable. How could you even consider Eric would be ok with them killing cops. It doesn't even bolster your argument. It was hateful. Yet you put it right out there for everyone to see and signed your name on it. What is wrong with you? Have you no decency? You should apologize and not make excuses. You meant what you said, but you will deny it. You have been caught out to many times, Rose. Shame on you!
ReplyDeleteReally? I think excusing away what Ayres did, saying 'oh, it was 30 years ago... he's now a respected member of the community... it's all ok... and besides, he's just a guy in the neighborhood..." THAT is despicable.
ReplyDeleteI want Eric to THINK!
Imagine 30 years from now - should we be excusing away these guys? And what they planned to do? NO. Not any more than you can excuse away the Columbine murderers.
Ayres was part of a MURDEROUS group - they BOMBED people here in this country.
And with breathless hyperbole you conclude that Obama is a terrorist sympathizer and Eric Kirk is a cop hater. Let me tell you what I think, Rose. Eric Kirk could out think you in his sleep. And if integrity has value, Eric has enough of it banked that he could retire. On the other hand, you don't have enough of that kind of collateral to secure a short term loan - at any rate of interest.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
Ayers is a respected member of his community. Something you have no experience with and are in no position to argue.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
And there you have it. OK with you if they kill cops.
ReplyDeleteNo. And this is just another example of premeditated hate speech calculated to agitate the limbic system and over-ride the mind. You use it like a club. And you are consistent. And you are quite aware of what you are doing.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
Hate speech? NO. THIS is Hate Speech:
ReplyDeleteIn 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.
Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."
Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:
"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
Ayres: 'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,'
Now THAT'S Hate Speech.
Thank you Rose. Now as for you Dreadful Anonymous, you are a complete jerk and have your priorities all screwed up. Ayers and his galpal are murderers, hatemongers, cop killers and how you defend them is SICKENING.
ReplyDelete1969 huh? Well that makes it relevant to this discussion. Thank you Rose for how you smear the reputations of decent people that stand in the way of your republican message of hate. Now, as for you Adam - why don't you go get laid by a real woman? You will find it much more satisfying than the funky butt lovin' you are getting from Rose. You might even get some tenderness in the bargain. Who knows, you might learn to give some back.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
I guess in 30 years you'll be calling these little murder-minded skinheads decent. I won't.
ReplyDeleteNo, but you will still be using the words of terrorists to smear decent people 30 years from now if you aren't locked up first. That makes you a terrorist. You are using hate speech to appeal to the baser instincts of those who do not think for themselves. You are a second rate terrorist fanning the flame of hatred. I want murdering bastards in jail. I think you are no better than the leader of a lynch mob. I think you should be in a straight jacket and put away before you instigate violence toward those you have a problem with. If President Obama ever visits Humboldt County, I hope the secret service has you locked up two weeks ahead of time and then not release you until two weeks after he is gone.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
That would follow with your fascist view of the world - lock up the law abiding people for expressing an opinion contrary to yours.
ReplyDeleteYep. Loud and clear.
Bush knowingly allowed 3,000+ to die (not including Katrina)on our shores.Is he not a terrorist for that alone?
ReplyDeletethe koolaid drinkers are out in full force now.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you about Ayers Rose - totally agree with you.
That has been the practice in the US for at least 25 years if not since the 60s. It is a good practice. It is for the protection of our President. You throw that term fascist around like you think you know its meaning. You are a terrorist, Rose, and you should be cooling down your rhetoric behind bars.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
Dreadful Anon - you really are an idiot. And pray tell us oh dense one, what "crime" has Rose committed by informing people of facts upon which they can draw their own opinions. And how do you define terrorist DA.
ReplyDeleteDA = dreadful anonymous
also stands for district attorney
and dumb ass
Which one/s are you dreadful?
I would post the 100 or so definitions of terrorist for you DA, but you are too entrenched to understand any of them.
It does beg the question - what IS the Secret Service/FBI/CIA going to do about the new President's buddies - when he wants to have the terrorists in for dinner - Ayres, Dohrn, Wright, Kalidi, Farrakhan et al... how many more are there?
ReplyDeleteSee - those are the people who should never be allowed NEAR a President. And you are going to hand the keys to the White House over to the killers.
Nice.
Since all the people you just mentioned are free law abiding citizens of the USA. Law enforcement has no issue with them. I should think that they would be much more interested in the white supremest hate stoking rhetoric you are publishing here. You should be more careful. Signing your name to this crap is not a very good idea. Maybe you should post under an anonymous pseudonym. Terror Bitch comes to mind. Actually, I thought of another, first. Terror C---. It denotes terror in both of its meanings and - I think - describes you - gives you symmetry and dimensionality in as few words as possible. No need to thank me. But, consider it my gift to you.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
Whatever.
ReplyDeleteI happen to think Ayres rhetoric is pretty hateful, even all these years later. I see the same evil in both he and the skinheads.
One is obviously politically correct and ok by you, while the other is politically incorrect.
You cannot link Ayres and Obama at the level you are attempting. Oh, Adam will go along with you and maybe some other extremely damaged psyches, but that is about all. You are not stupid. You will vote for McCain/Palin because of your selfishness and your deep-seated antipathy toward everyone that is living below the level of your achieved living standard. It is your lack of conscience that allows you to make the choices you make. Your behavior here more closely matches that of Ayers and his wife of '69 than anything you can attach to Obama today. Ayers of today is a very much finer person than you aspire to be. Your boy Adam is a fine example of the low intelligence that is susceptible to the hateful crap you're putting out for general consumption. But it serves your purpose - ugly as it is.
ReplyDeleteDreadful Anonymous
You're insane.
ReplyDeleteAnd, there is nothing Ayres can do to redeem himself. Except with people like you.
Take my advice, Rose, get a pseudonym. Oh, by the way, is Adam your pseudonym? Probably not.
ReplyDeleteIf Ayres broke the law and served his time and now is a college professor and volunteering his spare time, energy and expertise to better his community, he has already redeemed himself in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of his community.
How do you plan to redeem yourself after you have served time in prison for the crime of hate you are committing by telling complete fabrications and rousing the rabble to a fever pitch at a time when our soon to be new President is already in more danger for his life than any other US President in our nation's 232 year history?
Dreadful Anonymous
DON'T FEED THE MOGWAI!
ReplyDeleteI repeat DON'T FEED THE MOGWAI!
ReplyDeleteThat you, Gizmo?
ReplyDeleteThe value of Photo ID cards cannot be emphasized enough. When you have a face attached to a name, identifying people becomes much easier.
ReplyDelete