tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post6894750672976976460..comments2023-12-23T03:49:20.907-08:00Comments on watchpaul: Finally some information on the Arreaga murders with UPDATESRosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-63905407810664169832016-01-14T11:32:17.422-08:002016-01-14T11:32:17.422-08:00Don't make her mad! She will get her fat, chee...Don't make her mad! She will get her fat, cheetoh eating, ex NSA super soldier, reply poly "analyst" after you. LOL! Everyone is a CIA or NSA bad ass on the internet. I doubt either one ever served in any combat capacity. Probably clerks that ate everything in site. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-61191955962158913632015-10-05T19:33:06.861-07:002015-10-05T19:33:06.861-07:00Kristie Rhodes is a crazy bipolar chick, If you ca...Kristie Rhodes is a crazy bipolar chick, If you can't tell by her post. I went to school with her when she was sane. But since then, all she does is try to get attention from multiple sources. If I were you, or anybody else, I'd just let her be. I mean, she's been in the nut house before. Also attempted suicide. How she owns a firearm is beyond me. <br />Don't pay her any mind. The girl has lost it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-65042706841356223492015-09-26T22:42:26.596-07:002015-09-26T22:42:26.596-07:00Rose, again...I'm not mad. I just asked for in...Rose, again...I'm not mad. I just asked for integrity. Period. As for friends and family in that lifestyle as you say...I have no other that I'm aware of or in contact with. Sorry to disappoint. You see, in the Air Force we have a motto. Integrity. Service Before Self. Excellence in All We Do. Suppose I tend to hold others to that standard as well. As for Chiv... He's lashing out and I'm not going to respond to my friend's comments. He can do so himself if he so wishes. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-65671039913600650862015-09-26T22:37:57.523-07:002015-09-26T22:37:57.523-07:00Regardless, the court record, what is said in the ...Regardless, the court record, what is said in the trial is the only thing that matters, the only thing that the jury can hear or consider when reaching a verdict.<br /><br />And the accused is to be considered innocent, unless and until proven guilty in that court of law. That's because, of course, among other things, people may bring false witness against him.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-6123178784805937812015-09-26T20:54:40.290-07:002015-09-26T20:54:40.290-07:00Sherrie, at no point did I say sobbing was disrupt...Sherrie, at no point did I say sobbing was disruptive. In fact, I did a post saying the opposite. However, once again a reaction and misinterpretation.<br /><br />I understand you are upset about my courtroom observation about what you considering whispering or a distraction. At least your response is something I understand and it is perfectly valid. It is Ms. Rhodes who could have dealt with this privately<br />in an email. She chose to go public. <br /><br />If I am indeed wrong about your family, then Monday we will find out. I have no intention of engaging any of you in person or public. You all can do the same or not.<br /><br />Sherrie, I dont know which victim you are related to but the Tully family has been most gracious and stoic throughout all of this as well as the Hammers family who has been attending many court hearings.<br /><br />John Chivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325700128778718091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-1075736019114506342015-09-26T19:46:33.399-07:002015-09-26T19:46:33.399-07:00I am the sister of one of the murder victims. All ...I am the sister of one of the murder victims. All of this extra added drama is really not necessary. I appreciate anybody that can help us let the truth be known. Yes there have been some mistskes in the info reported. Nobody is perfect. Yet it really pisses me off that our family has been described as being one of the loudest or most disruptive families he has ever seen in court. There had been whispers because of the absolute ridiculous answers given by Shavonne because as family we know she is full of lies. We have not once been disruptive to the court. And Im sorry if you consider crying in court as you hear about the gruesome details of your loved ones being murdered to be disruptive. Personally I would apprciate it if the arguing would be kept private. Sherriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353296827171117707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-22049209143000575252015-09-26T19:45:59.445-07:002015-09-26T19:45:59.445-07:00I am the sister of one of the murder victims. All ...I am the sister of one of the murder victims. All of this extra added drama is really not necessary. I appreciate anybody that can help us let the truth be known. Yes there have been some mistskes in the info reported. Nobody is perfect. Yet it really pisses me off that our family has been described as being one of the loudest or most disruptive families he has ever seen in court. There had been whispers because of the absolute ridiculous answers given by Shavonne because as family we know she is full of lies. We have not once been disruptive to the court. And Im sorry if you consider crying in court as you hear about the gruesome details of your loved ones being murdered to be disruptive. Personally I would apprciate it if the arguing would be kept private. Sherriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353296827171117707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-1906828782348325592015-09-26T18:31:12.230-07:002015-09-26T18:31:12.230-07:00No one with a heart would respond to Ms. Rhodes in...No one with a heart would respond to Ms. Rhodes in the manner that several have here. If she is upset about comments made about her family or what she heard in court she has every sane motivation to stand up for them. The suggestion she is looking for publicity is the opinion of a bully who would prefer to be unchallenged by those who find fault with him.<br /><br />How anyone can be so ungraceful in a response to a family member in this situation is disgraceful. Shame on you! If nothing else, accept that she is in an emotionally traumatic place and either ignore any rebuttals she may make to your words or respond in a less personal manner. <br /><br />Did someone here actually imply Ms. Rhodes is a drug addict and tell her people she loves are lowlifes? Seriously? We have no control over the choices the people closest to us make. Unconditional love stays even when there may be horrific circumstances. I feel sorry for anyone who belongs to a family that would turn their backs on another. As the saying goes, Hate the sin, not the sinner." <br /><br />Everyone is telling her to stop or back off. She has a very emotional reason for continuing. What's yours?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14625649811909929495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-59101717038278900472015-09-26T16:28:05.629-07:002015-09-26T16:28:05.629-07:00I'm so sorry you're having to go through t...I'm so sorry you're having to go through this.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-61878412584749562802015-09-26T15:39:56.943-07:002015-09-26T15:39:56.943-07:00Rose, again...I'm not mad. I just asked for in...Rose, again...I'm not mad. I just asked for integrity. Period. As for friends and family in that lifestyle as you say...I have no other that I'm aware of or in contact with. Sorry to disappoint. You see, in the Air Force we have a motto. Integrity. Service Before Self. Excellence in All We Do. Suppose I tend to hold others to that standard as well. As for Chiv... He's lashing out and I'm not going to respond to my friend's comments. He can do so himself if he so wishes. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-19441966028559972492015-09-26T13:06:30.549-07:002015-09-26T13:06:30.549-07:00You're mad at the wrong person. Chiv is not th...You're mad at the wrong person. Chiv is not the one who put you in this situation. Chiv is not the one who killed your friend or family member(s). Someone from your friend/family member's circle of friends is, based on the described chain of events so far, they all knew each other, right? As for discrepancies, I guess further witnesses will uncover whether ANYTHING thus far spoken in court or reported out is true.<br /><br />If you're going to channel your energies, it ought to be on getting any other friends and family members OUT OF THAT LIFESTYLE. Nothing good comes of it. Nothing. And, as you now are experiencing, enormous pain and suffering for Innocent family members is all that comes of it.<br /><br />I'm going to assume, though one should not assume anything, that they have gun residue evidence on one of the people charged, or there would not have been immunity granted to one of the others.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-92597065600695552015-09-26T12:35:51.027-07:002015-09-26T12:35:51.027-07:00It certainly seems that this was an utterly sensel...It certainly seems that this was an utterly senseless, entirely vicious and uncalled for act. No reason for these killings whatsoever, except for the lifestyle choice.<br /><br />I can't tell who exactly it is you're defending here. The victims did not deserve what happened to them, based on what I've read so far.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-34694621048501506502015-09-26T12:29:51.908-07:002015-09-26T12:29:51.908-07:00Chad, a friend of yours according to facebook.Was ...Chad, a friend of yours according to facebook.Was he in court yesterday? Or is he basing his opinion on your version of events?<br /><br />So are you going to have all your friends join in the comment section to stack your opinion?<br />John Chivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325700128778718091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-88889327443236678982015-09-26T12:19:45.954-07:002015-09-26T12:19:45.954-07:00Anon 9:42 your advice is well taken. After correct...Anon 9:42 your advice is well taken. After correcting some more facts, I will let Ms. Rhodes' behavior speak for itself, if she choses to keep engaging.<br /><br />Ms. Rhodes has been on the blogs non stop for 2 days. Who is this Chad? Related to anyone in this case? <br />Someone with a grudge?<br /><br />I printed one comment from Ms. Rhodes and I did not block her as she claims. I did tell her that I will not print anymore comments if she continues to misstate facts. She did that in a second email. I saved that email.<br /><br />In the meantime she proceeded to ignore my response and go on the blogs non-stop with the same claims.<br /><br />She has not come up with a single discrepancy. Her issue is with a courtroom observation about people talking. I provide detailed coverage that others do not. Same facts in KIEM and TS that I also wrote about. In 2 days, Ms. Rhodes has followed every link of my blog's coverage claiming discrepancies yet all she has issue with is one or two courtroom observations.<br /><br />The Tully family has been at every court hearing. Most families are grateful and talk only to me.<br /><br />Other commenters have eloquently made observations about interpretations in a courtroom.<br /><br />Ms. Rhodes threatened me with enjoining, a word she could not even spell correctly. My rtesponding to that threat she turns around and claims I am threatening her. She considers a discrepancy of the spelling Shavonne's name, an issue that I addressed. Again, ignored.<br /><br />Similarly, about the pile of debris. Explained.<br /><br />Jason Arreaga is presumed innocent until proven guilty. <br />The evidence is not in completely in this case.<br /><br />I can understand Ms. Rhodes grief but she seems to be upset about courtroom observations that I made in this trial which are relevant. Someone was asked to leave the courtroom because a witness felt intimidated. No one knows who that person is and whether they are connected to either victim.<br /><br />Similarly, Ms. Rhodes continued attempt to not, acknowledge explainations and try and intimidate me into silence in this comment section speaks for itself.<br /><br />I understand she is in pain. She is not the only one who has lost a loved one. Her behavior is not typical of families in court.<br /><br />It does not give her the right to interfere with anyone else attending the trial which is public in a courtroom. <br /><br />Anon, you are correct. Let's see who takes the high road.John Chivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325700128778718091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-44126161421693535092015-09-26T10:52:33.081-07:002015-09-26T10:52:33.081-07:00Thank you, Chad. I appreciate that. And you are ab...Thank you, Chad. I appreciate that. And you are about the only one who actually got my point. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-81685326598480860682015-09-26T10:41:53.527-07:002015-09-26T10:41:53.527-07:00Kristie, if necessary get the court transcripts an...Kristie, if necessary get the court transcripts and go line by line to point of the discrepancies. Having 30 years experience taking notes doesn't make one an excellent note taker. I know lots of people who are professional students with multiple degrees who are still complete morons and know shit about anything. Are emotions strong? Of course they are. This is a case about lost family members and those who took them away. As for any alleged "publicity stunts" one participant in this argument is complaining about perceived factual errors and another is blogging about a court case that apparently has no direct connection to them whatsoever for the purpose of gaining.....uhhhhh.....publicity. There can be no journalistic integrity if, as John says, he's not a professional. He's just another courtroom fanboy dreaming of being something more than whatever he is. Well intentioned or not I have seen time and time again how this type of activity just heaps even more pain upon the victims and their suvivors. I know Ms. Rhodes. I know her stellar service record in the Air Force and I know her integrity. I've never known her to fabricate or embellish. She's a straight shooter. Given her record, as a witness, she's unimpeachable."<br />Chad Durbecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-19920109340255951192015-09-26T09:42:49.103-07:002015-09-26T09:42:49.103-07:00STOP. To what purpose is all of this? Can anyone s...STOP. To what purpose is all of this? Can anyone say that they themselves have not had things they have done that they are not proud of? Would you love your family member less if one of them had been stricken with drug addiction? Can we have some compassion please? We are all just people trying to make our way in this world, some of us have more problems than others and to attempt to diminish that value of a human life to a family that has lost someone in this way is just awful. Chiv, stop replying to her because nobody else is questioning your integrity and as a journalist you will experience this situation. Though you may not agree with her and probably are offended (rightly so) she is offended and in pain also. Be an instrument of peace and swallow your pride, it is the high road. Keep love in your hearts. Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682116407563111968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-81032355565868459502015-09-26T07:33:39.835-07:002015-09-26T07:33:39.835-07:00Your family? These lowlife druggies who kill witho...Your family? These lowlife druggies who kill without missing a beat? Meth like it's Cheerios, Heroin, when did Fieldbrook get infested with these vermin. Are you one of them? For your own sake, shut up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-22610813000389073152015-09-26T05:49:28.086-07:002015-09-26T05:49:28.086-07:00Mr. Chiv. You really do not get it do you? You hav...Mr. Chiv. You really do not get it do you? You have discrepancies here. First, I'm glad you've taken 30 years of notes. But still there were issues which I'm not going to rehash as you would like yet again.<br />Secondly, I went on your blog and you blocked me immediately, therefore I came here. There wasn't a third. Or any other media contact. Hyperbole! Get used to the word since you want to keep going.<br />As far as me saying "defending my family" I was referring to your absurd allegations of our family talking over the attorneys and witnesses. All of us were very quiet. Not the most VOCAL you've ever witnessed. Hyperbole! <br />I find this all hard to believe when the other reporters in town had the correct information. <br />Finally, all these "embarrassing facts" you think I'm upset about?? I knew all of this long ago. All of our family did. We were and are prepared. Thank you for your assumption though.<br />And last, this is the only place I have put an opinion on you. There was no grief stricken outburst. I only keep responding because now you, sir, will not stop your attempts to defame me because I asked you to get your facts straight. Which, clearly you still aren't capable of in this last post. Assumptions and hyperbole. <br />I did however, enjoy your last blog on what was happening. Much more to the point.<br /><br />P.S. Her name is spelled Chavonne. You keep going back and forth in your articles on how to spell. There you go. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-54220676734578405632015-09-26T00:32:40.225-07:002015-09-26T00:32:40.225-07:00Ms. Rhodes is free to get a court transcript of th...Ms. Rhodes is free to get a court transcript of the two days so far. We will see how many discrepancies match up with a court record. The one article about the pile of debris was Mr. Curtis' opening statement. Could he have been talking about two different incidents.?My best recollection was he said pile of debris after a man saw a pistol in Arreaga's hand and shot Mr. Hammers .Could I have made one unintentional mistake while taking down notes. Sure. <br /><br />In 30 years of taking notes, and no one has accused me of misquotes and discrepancies.<br /><br />Ms. Rhodes has been on 3 blogs today, threatening enjoining, not in joining as she <br />spelled it. <br /><br />Defending my family is the key term in her comments. I have detailed coverage of court testimony. None of my opinion in any coverage has been directed to Mr. Hammers who she seems to be related to. Testimony in court about his character has been from Shavonne Hammers.<br /><br />People, either family or friends have talked during testimony. <br /><br />I can understand one grief stricken outburst but Ms. Rhodes has been on blogs all day. That is not the action of someone shying away from the spotlight. <br /><br />Ms. Rhodes was not at the scene. Neither was I. <br /><br />Emmbarassing family facts coming to light in a public trial in an open courtroom can be disconcerting.<br />John Chivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14325700128778718091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-28932210080331775692015-09-25T22:14:49.634-07:002015-09-25T22:14:49.634-07:00Thank you. I would just like facts and integrity. ...Thank you. I would just like facts and integrity. It just seems a bit much this BLOGGER wants to attempt to humiliate my family and threaten libel suits. After he can stop and think...then I'll stop defending my family. I'm not angry as he claims. Only at the monster who murdered my family.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-7229201485858336782015-09-25T21:58:52.953-07:002015-09-25T21:58:52.953-07:00My hear grieves for you and your family's pain...My hear grieves for you and your family's pain. I can only imagine how you feel. I hope you can give your mind some peace and not frazzle it more by being bothered with Mr. Chiv's blog. Perhaps he did make a mistake, I was not there and trust you know the details. Worry about staying strong for you and your family during this time and don't let things that, when it down to it, don't matter and aren't worth wasting your precious energy on. Peace to you and your family.Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682116407563111968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-13858098569355165122015-09-25T21:51:21.872-07:002015-09-25T21:51:21.872-07:00Ok...you want it, you've got it...tomorrow, af...Ok...you want it, you've got it...tomorrow, after speaking with the DA, I will go through that one particular article, point out every discrepancy he made. Yes, I am a family member. However, I have worked in the legal field, I'm a United States Veteran, I have family in law enforcement and I know how to conduct myself appropriately, as does my family that was very quiet. Here's just ONE as I'm thinking to give you a bit. Mr. Hammers did not fall in debris. He was in a truck. He was hit by debris during a previous altercation. Fact. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11227270319357320756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-74052354710241798342015-09-25T21:39:23.050-07:002015-09-25T21:39:23.050-07:00I also should say that he does not publish blogs u...I also should say that he does not publish blogs until he has verified his facts and trusts his sources, I know this as a fact.Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682116407563111968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-87693776775029457752015-09-25T21:37:00.521-07:002015-09-25T21:37:00.521-07:00I can't help but notice she still did not poin...I can't help but notice she still did not point out any example of discrepancy in the reporting. People interpret things differently. 10 witnesses will tell 10 different varying versions of the same account. Mr. Chiv has not published anything that I have seen that is not fact. I am sure the family member is grieving and a lot of emotion does unbalance things for all of us. Peace to all.Anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00682116407563111968noreply@blogger.com