tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post1585051916726178824..comments2023-12-23T03:49:20.907-08:00Comments on watchpaul: 501(c)(3) questionsRosehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-56354492284233624092008-03-27T22:32:00.000-07:002008-03-27T22:32:00.000-07:00It would also seem the fools spend time on the blo...It would also seem the fools spend time on the blogs. At least in your case 10:56Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-24232049060364476612008-03-27T10:56:00.000-07:002008-03-27T10:56:00.000-07:00Fools spend most of their time laughing.Fools spend most of their time laughing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-29767262826392721762008-03-27T10:29:00.000-07:002008-03-27T10:29:00.000-07:00I suppose submitting the "Healthy Humboldt" Plan i...I suppose submitting the "Healthy Humboldt" Plan is not lobbying either. I have to admit you have me laughing at this one.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-5730435855267114582008-03-27T10:24:00.000-07:002008-03-27T10:24:00.000-07:00Speaking before the BOS and Planning Commission is...Speaking before the BOS and Planning Commission is not lobbying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-85769065901766192672008-03-27T09:40:00.000-07:002008-03-27T09:40:00.000-07:00It has to be something in the comments.It has to be something in the comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-42432789842625820482008-03-27T09:33:00.000-07:002008-03-27T09:33:00.000-07:00It seems pretty innocuous, why do you think "heral...It seems pretty innocuous, why do you think "heraldo" pulled that post down?<BR/><BR/>Anti-Mendocino Redwood, written by BACH's Karen Pickett, what is it?Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-67941222284391710542008-03-27T08:28:00.000-07:002008-03-27T08:28:00.000-07:00Surely he declared the lobbying on the Healthy fil...Surely he declared the lobbying on the Healthy filings, is it a 501c3 2? Where do we find those?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-45129785595334396942008-03-27T08:14:00.000-07:002008-03-27T08:14:00.000-07:00still checked the wrong box, he didn't lobby, righ...still checked the wrong box, he didn't lobby, right? oh wait, you are saying he did lobby - is that what you are saying? he did lobby, but said he didn't on his tax returns. right, that is ok.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-90628099960306558512008-03-27T08:11:00.000-07:002008-03-27T08:11:00.000-07:00go read "action organization"go read "action organization"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-21438580668352773072008-03-27T07:54:00.000-07:002008-03-27T07:54:00.000-07:00It applies to civic or social changes. That would...It applies to civic or social changes. That would, of course, include a general plan update. Their primary focus is protecting the environment so educating and speaking before the BOS and Planning Commission about the general plan up date is entirely within their stated focus.<BR/><BR/>But by all means, file your petty little complaint so everyone can laugh, not just the couple of people who read this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-64740279623319541602008-03-27T07:45:00.000-07:002008-03-27T07:45:00.000-07:00Read the definition of advocacy. You people are g...Read the definition of advocacy. You people are grasping at straws in your desperation. It is very amusing even before I have had my coffee.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-21903894190831591232008-03-27T07:37:00.000-07:002008-03-27T07:37:00.000-07:00again, he checked the box "n/a" under lobbying so ...again, he checked the box "n/a" under lobbying so there is no way to determine if his lobbying activities were an insubstantial part of the group's activities. Since anybody can get the minutes of the meetings from all the city council meetings over the last 3 years where HWC has presented testimony in against TPZ and in favor of Sketch Plan "A", plus the numerous emails and "action alerts" telling people to go to the planning commission meetings and tell them to vote for "A", it will be interesting to see what other activities he could be working on to make this large volume of comments and public appearances "insubstantial"...timber yes, tax fraud, no!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-10980706588666242372008-03-27T07:32:00.001-07:002008-03-27T07:32:00.001-07:00Of course.Of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-83437904550518888982008-03-27T07:32:00.000-07:002008-03-27T07:32:00.000-07:00If you are going to quote, quote the rest: "from q...If you are going to quote, quote the rest: "from qualifying under section<BR/>501(c)(3 so long as it is not an action organization of any one of the types described in paragraph (c)(3) of this section."<BR/><BR/>"(ii) An organization is an action organization<BR/>if a substantial part of its activities<BR/>is attempting to influence legislation<BR/>by propaganda or otherwise.<BR/>For this purpose, an organization will be regarded as attempting to influence<BR/>legislation if the organization:<BR/>(a) Contacts, or urges the public to<BR/>contact, members of a legislative body<BR/>for the purpose of proposing, supporting,<BR/>or opposing legislation; or<BR/>(b) Advocates the adoption or rejection<BR/>of legislation.<BR/>The term legislation, as used in this<BR/>subdivision, includes action by the<BR/>Congress, by any State legislature, by<BR/>any local council or similar governing<BR/>body, or by the public in a referendum,<BR/>initiative, constitutional amendment,<BR/>or similar procedure. An organization<BR/>will not fail to meet the operational<BR/>test merely because it advocates, as an<BR/>insubstantial part of its activities, the<BR/>adoption or rejection of legislation. An<BR/>organization for which the expenditure<BR/>test election of section 501(h) is in effect<BR/>for a taxable year will not be considered<BR/>an action organization by reason<BR/>of this paragraph (c)(3)(ii) for that<BR/>year if it is not denied exemption from<BR/>taxation under section 501(a) by reason<BR/>of section 501(h)."<BR/><BR/>Also, I think the part you cited only applies to "social welfare corporations" Do you work at the planning department?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-16239895650945745202008-03-27T07:13:00.000-07:002008-03-27T07:13:00.000-07:00OOPS - you need to look at the tax return. Accord...OOPS - you need to look at the tax return. According to Mr. Lovelace, he wasn't doing lobbying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-40610523896419601582008-03-27T00:00:00.000-07:002008-03-27T00:00:00.000-07:00OOPS LOLIRS Reg Sec. 1.501(c)(3)-1(d). says: "The...OOPS LOL<BR/><BR/>IRS Reg Sec. 1.501(c)(3)-1(d). says: "The fact that an organization, in carrying out its primary purpose, advocates social or civic changes or presents opinion on controversial issues with the intention of molding public opinion or creating public sentiment to an acceptance of its views does not preclude such organization from qualifying under section 501(c)(3)" <BR/><BR/>"Advocacy includes legislative lobbying, litigation, regulatory proceedings, rulemaking, action before administrative agencies, public education, organizing and direct action."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-38539619427372022322008-03-26T23:49:00.000-07:002008-03-26T23:49:00.000-07:00Heraldo, rewriting history.Why I never!Heraldo, rewriting history.<BR/><BR/>Why I never!Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-7358282936480309502008-03-26T23:45:00.001-07:002008-03-26T23:45:00.001-07:00# Not A Native Says:March 14, 2008 at 12:21 pmSor...# Not A Native Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 12:21 pm<BR/><BR/>Sorry Rose, wishing it were so, don’t make it so. My advice: move to Trinity or Del Norte before you fall into the ground from stamping your feet.<BR/><BR/>If there are so few folks sympathetic to environmental concerns how did Pat Higgins sweep the 5th and Curless get less than 50%? Soon, Rodoni will be history and Smith has a real contest.<BR/><BR/>And BTW, ya’ think Woolley’s resignation and Geist’s anxious repositioning has anything to do with their assessments of how the voting majority feels about resource extraction policy?<BR/># Larry Evans Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 1:36 pm<BR/><BR/>Rose,<BR/><BR/>I am honored to be counted among people like Mr.’s Lovelace and Nichols and Dr. Miller. Thank you for that exalted compliment. But don’t forget Ms. Lanman, Dulas, Elkins, Romeo, Kalt, Clary, Wrigley and so many other women who have been providing leadership by their clear vision, their personal example and endless hard work in the struggle of free people trying to defend all of our birthrights to a healthy environment with clean water and air, and to pass on a world to our kids with all the wondrous natural diversity of species here on earth as when we were born so few years ago.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I must have missed the meeting where they handed out all the wealth & power. I know my family wouldn’t mind some more income and a little less volunteering of my time & efforts.<BR/><BR/>Signed– larry “low-tax-bracket” evans<BR/># anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 5:39 pm<BR/><BR/>Sounds like the Watermelons are already gearing up for MRC. No wonder people view the environmental movement in Humboldt with skepticism. Oh yeah, they just want “sustainable” harvesting. Don’t shut down the mills and put people out of work!! RRIIIIGHT. When the watermelon’s lips move, you can tell they are lying.<BR/># Homer Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 6:13 pm<BR/><BR/>MMMMMM, watermelons!Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-8068711306018156792008-03-26T23:45:00.000-07:002008-03-26T23:45:00.000-07:00# Heraldo Says:March 13, 2008 at 11:32 pmUnless, o...# Heraldo Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 11:32 pm<BR/><BR/>Unless, of course, you’re obsessed.<BR/># Heraldo Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 11:49 pm<BR/><BR/>And believe your own bullshit.<BR/># Rose Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 12:11 am<BR/><BR/>Are you saying Ken Miller is not a co-founder of BACH? Funny. Salmon Forever? Funny. Humboldt Watershed Council, didn’t Mark Lovelace just call Healthy Humboldt a “project” of Humboldt Watershed Council - what a joke. What a joke.<BR/># WatchKen&Mark Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:03 am<BR/><BR/>Where would Humboldt County’s residents be if not for the vigilance of “rose” in exposing the shenanigans of the enviros and other assorted evil doers.<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:08 am<BR/><BR/>Is there something wrong with organizations to protect the environment? Why does Rose hate the environment? Did Dr. Miller refuse her a 215 card or something?<BR/><BR/>We are so fortunate to have a few professionals here with the money and willingness to donate to protect our environment. Why is it that people like Rose can applaud an Arkley for “good work” that he does to gain power with his name painted all over it, but hates men who give quietly to protect and restore what we and all species need to simply live.<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:15 am<BR/><BR/>Refuse Rose a 215 card. Thats a laugh. For $250 dr. Ken doesn’t refuse anyone a 215 card.<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:20 am<BR/><BR/>And you would know that HOW, 7:15?<BR/># Rose Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:50 am<BR/><BR/>Lots of fake-o groups, 7:08, same little bunch of manipulators using them to make themselves look big, Ken Miller, Mark Lovelace, Larry Evans, Pete Nichols (relative newcomer), and a few others, they all come in concert to speak now - and it is becoming clearer and clearer what a small group they really are.<BR/><BR/>Now they’re trying to put out the smear on Mendocino Redwood who they obviously see as a final obstacle in their path - not about saving the environment - it is about money and power and taking over Palco.<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 7:58 am<BR/><BR/>You have lost it Rose. There are a few leaders of any movement, lots of foot soldiers. Everyone in Humboldt County isn’t stuck in the anti-environmental (Straight Arrow) mindset you are Rose. Most people have noticed the degradation of our rivers and decreasing fish. Of course, you don’t give a “DAM” about the fish. (I haven’t thought about Straight Arrow for years. Another one of those industry driven organizations that died without accomplishing anything, thankfully.)<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 8:06 am<BR/><BR/>You are projecting your own motives for power and money onto people who don’t value it so much, Rose. Trying to get responsible stewards elected isn’t for power and money but the opposite, preventing the greedy earth exploiters from ruining things for EVERY SPECIES.<BR/># tad Says:<BR/>March 14, 2008 at 9:45 am<BR/><BR/>Peace be with you Rose<BR/><BR/>I have been working in the environmental and social justice movements for a long time and neither Ken Miller nor Mark Lovelace nor Larry Evens nor Peter Nichols have ever been presented as a “leader” of anything to me. They, like many many of us, do what they do and I appreciate it that. If the environmentalists were organized to the extent you claim there would be no republicrate agendas even suggested in this county. The truth however is we only collectively organize around what we individually consider mutually beneficial. Anti-old growth logging and medical marijuana activists abound in this area and all those mentioned above can proudly claim to be one or both of them. Someday when enough of us believe it is in our best interest to save the planet and the people living on it, then you will see how the unorganized organize.<BR/><BR/>love eternal<BR/>tadAnon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-60480268559651818092008-03-26T23:44:00.000-07:002008-03-26T23:44:00.000-07:00# Anonymous Says:March 13, 2008 at 5:44 pmOh my G...# Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 5:44 pm<BR/><BR/>Oh my God. This couldn’t be the bashing of a responsible company by those who are vying with them to buy the assets of the remnants of PL. It mustn’t be Mark Lovelace and Dr. Ken trying to turn public opinion against a legitimate plan to save jobs and help our economy. No way would those ethical stalwarts stoop to such a low level. I am sure that this is a mistake or perhaps Arkley has taken over the computer of Mark and Ken.<BR/># Heraldo Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 5:51 pm<BR/><BR/>What evidence do you have the Mendocino Redwood is a responsible company with a legitimate plan?<BR/># Anonymous Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 5:58 pm<BR/><BR/>What evidence do you have that you are not Mark and ken?<BR/># HumboldtBlue Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 6:22 pm<BR/><BR/>Yeah, what evidence do you have that you’re not Ken and Barbie?<BR/># Jeff Muskrat Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 6:35 pm<BR/><BR/>Read more about the MRC and the FSC(I love acronyms:) at<BR/><BR/>http://humboldtforestdefense.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Karen Pickett has more reasons to worry besides “the Gap” between light logging and industrial logging.<BR/># OffTheRez Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 11:08 pm<BR/><BR/>Mendocino Redwoods Co. has long history of Pesticide spraying on their lands. Bad neighbors if you ask me.<BR/># Rose Says:<BR/>March 13, 2008 at 11:25 pm<BR/><BR/>My, my, my, Ken Miller’s Bay Area Coalition for Headwaters writes a letter against Mendocino Redwood - why? Because Miller didn’t submit a plan to the bankruptcy court but hopes to sneak in through the back door. Has he got Salzman writing anonymously here? This one should have had a disclaimer following the letter, Hank.<BR/><BR/>Humboldt County residents would be wise to figure out how many front groups Miller has and just how desperately he wants his grubby paws on Palco. Has he picked out his wallpaper yet?<BR/><BR/>I hear he has also reconstituted Salmon Forever. Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain…Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-24354954118188816532008-03-26T23:43:00.001-07:002008-03-26T23:43:00.001-07:0029 Responses to “CAUTION: Mendo Redwood not as gre...29 Responses to “CAUTION: Mendo Redwood not as green as they seem”<BR/><BR/> 1. Not a Native Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 3:16 pm<BR/><BR/> Breaking news on the 3rd district Supes race. Check out the man who knows all, Hank Sims<BR/> 2. Heraldo Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 3:23 pm<BR/><BR/> Hank had great coverage of yesterday’s upset in the 3rd, but there doesn’t appear to be anything new today. Am I missing something?<BR/> 3. Not a Native Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 3:34 pm<BR/><BR/> BTW, Is “lite logging” sorta like a “little” pregnant?<BR/><BR/> Reminds me of one definition of diplomacy:<BR/><BR/> A technique of telling someone to “Go to Hell” in a way leaves them looking forward to the trip.<BR/> 4. Not a Native Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 3:35 pm<BR/><BR/> Check Sims’ blog “earthquake” !<BR/> 5. Not a Native Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 3:47 pm<BR/><BR/> Oops, sorry H. It WAS yesterday, Guess I’m the one who’s behind the power curve……..<BR/> 6. Anonymous Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 5:35 pm<BR/><BR/> Is anyone surprised Ullansey is running? Do you think he stands a chance?<BR/> 7. HumboldtBlue Says:<BR/> March 13, 2008 at 5:41 pm<BR/><BR/> Ulansey has dropped out of the race, but his HumCPR group is still active. They’ve planned a meeting in Redway for next Wednesday to determine just how evil the panning department is.<BR/><BR/> Kirk Girard, evil person? Or the most evil person in the world?Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-57744283260285376972008-03-26T23:43:00.000-07:002008-03-26T23:43:00.000-07:00No, it was removed.Here is a copy of it:CAUTION: M...<B>No, it was removed.<BR/><BR/>Here is a copy of it:</B><BR/><BR/><BR/>CAUTION: Mendo Redwood not as green as they seem<BR/><BR/>A letter in this week’s North Coast Journal raises red flags about Mendocino Redwood Company that have gone largely unmentioned since the timber co. proposed its plan of reorganization of Pacific Lumber.<BR/><BR/>Karen Pickett of Bay Area Coalition for Headwaters writes:<BR/><BR/> Many people are looking favorably at the prospect of Mendocino Redwoods Co. running the show on Pacific Lumber land because they purport to have a “lite logging” plan coming in on the heels of PL/Maxxam’s heavy-handed industrial logging in the streams and hillsides of Humboldt County. But because it is the Fisher family (known best for their sweatshop child labor to supply their GAP, Old Navy and Banana Republic stores), Mendocino Redwood is decidedly not a local timber company. Also known as Sansome Investment Group, their promises to “cut logging down to a sustainable level” deserve a second and third look.<BR/><BR/>Brothers John and Robert Fisher inherited their parents wealth and appear at numbers 743 and 843 on the Forbes list of billionaires. And as we’ve seen from the man who tops that list, abundant wealth doesn’t equate to doing the right thing.<BR/><BR/>Pickett says “residents of Mendocino are sorely disappointed in the return on original promises from the company” when it bought land from Louisiana-Pacific in 1998.<BR/><BR/>Humboldt County residents would be wise to study the image vs. reality of the prospective new timber bosses. Perhaps our neighbors to the South will communicate their experiences with M(e)RC to round out the company’s presentations scheduled for this coming Saturday and Tuesday.<BR/><BR/>This entry was posted on March 13, 2008 at 2:48 pm and is filed under Uncategorized. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.Anon.R.moushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07736036468567970001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-73886414608839313562008-03-26T22:41:00.000-07:002008-03-26T22:41:00.000-07:00MIssing post on heraldo - CAUTION: Mendo Redwood n...MIssing post on heraldo - <BR/><BR/><B>CAUTION: Mendo Redwood not as green as they seem « The Humboldt Herald</B><BR/><I>Humboldt Watershed Council, didn’t Mark Lovelace just call Healthy Humboldt a “project” of Humboldt Watershed Council - what a joke. What a joke. ...<BR/>humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2008/ 03/13/caution-mendo-redwood-not-as-green-as-they-seem/ - 42k - Cached - Similar pages</I><BR/><BR/>Not Found - Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it is a Wordpress glitch.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-56367719276994816522008-03-26T17:59:00.000-07:002008-03-26T17:59:00.000-07:00Well, if the check was made out to the City of Arc...Well, if the check was made out to the City of Arcata, then I guess the Resources Legacy Fund Foundation will be having to file an amended federal filing, won't they?<BR/><BR/>The $200,000 question is only part of the equations, however, since it is the 501(c)(3) status of Humboldt Watershed Council that prohibits Mark from trying to influence legislation, which is exactly what he did as Healthy Humboldt, which he calls a "project" of Humboldt Watershed Council.<BR/><BR/>IIn no uncertain terms, "Healthy Humboldt" has been ALL about influencing, directing and even proposing plans for the General Plan, the TPZ component of the General Plan, and alot of other things.<BR/><BR/>I guess we will see.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25625654.post-70054609394093952942008-03-26T17:54:00.000-07:002008-03-26T17:54:00.000-07:00News flash...... 911 operators were overwhelmed to...News flash...... 911 operators were overwhelmed today by callers reporting a tsunami of puke in the streets..... after people read ML press release..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com